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bookofxero

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As if. The least scammy platforms to find apps for are those without requiring an app "store", such as macOS and the non-store that is the wide open internet. I have long given up on bothering with trying to sludge my way through the misleading trash on the Apple iPhone App Store. What the EU wants to do is open up iOS so that we can simply find apps on the internet without having to deal with being funnelled into this locked-down, culture-censored, Apple-taxed, scam-fest of the chaperoned Apple iPhone App Store. I can't wait.

And guess what, if the EU succeeds, you will still be able to stick with exclusively downloading apps from the Apple App Store, whilst the rest of us, finally, freely sideload to our heart's content. No harm done to you, all your favourite subs and scams will still be available in your privacy and security perfected Apple store.
And how, pray tell, do you imagine that opening the OS to sideloading somehow magically eliminates that as a major security threat vector? Especially with the EU wanting the give developers full access to the SE!
 
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chucker23n1

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To an end-user, many cryptocurrencies can work like investments or stocks.

Investments or stocks have a real basis. A stock is tied to perceived company value. It may also emit additional money through dividends.

A crypto"currency" has no such value. It is purely a greater fool scam; its value is derived by tricking more people into buying into it.
 

ponzicoinbro

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There is literally nothing supporting the "value" but hypemen and shills.
As for developing countries: there are other ways to stabilize their economies without drawing more power than small nations on an even more laughable endeavor than "meme stocks" (seriously, those * are keeping GME afloat, financing its NFT store garbage, harming workers, etc - 🪛 them).

They call some of those unstable nations banana republics for a reason.

Because the authoritarian leaders are bananas. Complete bonkers.

If you tell people from those countries to buy ponzi coins, gold bars and monkey jpegs that doesn’t solve any problem.

The banana dictators will simply seize the ponzi coins, gold bars and monkey jpegs for themselves. Then they will do whatever they can to attract crypto bros for support.

That’s why so many Russian oligarchs have so much crypto.

Then they flew to Dubai to avoid sanctions, bought properties there and are now having their investment and trading portfolios managed in Dubai. They are still avoiding sanctions and making millions.

This is probably why “Binance” opened an office in Dubai directly around the time the oligarchs moved their money to that country. It looks like this shady exchange is helping the oligarchs to manage trading portfolios.
 

ponzicoinbro

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And hoe, pray tell, do you imagine that opening the OS to sideloading somehow magically eliminates that as a major security threat vector? Especially with the EU wanting the give developers full access to the SE!

I have no doubt some policy makers in EU would be bribed by now to make such absurd decisions in the face of global cyber threats.

That idiot leader of the British Theresa May and her successors have been talking about weakening encryption too.

In US it is much more blatant. When US politicians are bribed they make it so obvious. They smile in photos with the people who bribe them.

These people don’t listen to experts they only listen to bribes and the masses of the people should protest and demand who is lobbying policy makers to break privacy and weaken security.

It might be an issue of blackmail also.

For so many years operating systems and social media had exploits and there is a strong chance politicians and their families had intimidate private details stolen by these same type of criminals who have been financing fascist nationalism and religious fundamentalist ideas.
 
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CarAnalogy

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I'm surprised to see this comment in a technology focused community. Asymmetric cryptography and distributed ledger tech are computer science breakthroughs.

While you may not require the benefits cryptocurrencies offer, there are many around the world that do not have access to traditional banking and it solves a problem for them.

Yeah but most of those are international criminals hellbent on destroying Western civilization. So **** those guys. Sorry but they ruined it for everyone.
 
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SoldOnApple

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Time for Apple so start proving it deserves the 30% cut, by safeguarding users from scam apps. Not only scam apps, but just shoddy and misleading apps in general. What's the point of having a walled garden if it's full of weeds and grifters.
 
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SoldOnApple

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I'm surprised to see this comment in a technology focused community. Asymmetric cryptography and distributed ledger tech are computer science breakthroughs.

While you may not require the benefits cryptocurrencies offer, there are many around the world that do not have access to traditional banking and it solves a problem for them.
Most computer science breakthroughs don't cost people their lifesavings. I have the same issue with gambling apps, but at least with gambling the risks are usually well known in advance.
 

ponzicoinbro

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It’s a fascist theocratic death cult that has been funded by all the money the crypto VCs and crypto exchanges has stolen from the public, but we always knew these things were happening. Mega church donations, casinos, unregulated gambling and now crypto ponzis. Mafias and dictators always steal money from the public with these games so they can have power

 
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Kilibee

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Investments or stocks have a real basis. A stock is tied to perceived company value. It may also emit additional money through dividends.

A crypto"currency" has no such value. It is purely a greater fool scam; its value is derived by tricking more people into buying into it.
The good thing is, that we're moving from „What's this new crypto thingie?“ to the insight that it is very. very fundamentally broken, and that more and more people really understand this.

If you are still believing that there might be something to it, watch Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTs", and read Molly White's blog.

Yes, the YT video is a full two hours, but it really covers what is broken with the whole sector. You will not touch the whole thing with a ten foot pole afterwards.

IMO Apple should get as far as possible ASAP.
Minecraft did, Meta didn't. Pick your side.
 
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ponzicoinbro

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The good thing is, that we're moving from „What's this new crypto thingie?“ to the insight that it is very. very fundamentally broken, and that more and more people really understand this.

If you are still believing that there might be something to it, watch Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTs", and read Molly White's blog.

Yes, the YT video is a full two hours, but it really covers what is broken with the whole sector. You will not touch the whole thing with a ten foot pole afterwards.

IMO Apple should get as far as possible ASAP.
Minecraft did, Meta didn't. Pick your side.

That documentary video Line Goes Up is sooooo good. Everything the media should have done but failed to do. They are complicit with the scammers who stolen so much and will keep trying again.
 

jakey rolling

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The person literally said crypto anything is a scam. Seems like a pretty naive statement.
Most people can read for context, dude. When "crypto" is used as it is in the context of this article, it is pretty clear that the "crypto" being talked about is "those technologies that spawned from the invention of bitcoin", including other cryptocurrencies, NFTs, DeFI, and all other public (and some private) blockchain-based technologies.

Nobody was talking about cryptography. Unless you are being needlessly pedantic and just trolling, you really aught to brush up on your critical reading skills.
As for distributed ledger, I think your spreadsheet comparison is more akin to traditional banking. Reaching consensus with no central authority is actually a pretty big deal.
LOL. Okay bud.
 

ponzicoinbro

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What about Venezuela?

They are ruled now by a dumb dictator and his brothers who are doing some dodgy deals with money laundering crypto bros. Whatever crypto touches turns to 💩 and if it was already 💩in the first place it stinks even more.
 

sideshowuniqueuser

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And hoe, pray tell, do you imagine that opening the OS to sideloading somehow magically eliminates that as a major security threat vector? Especially with the EU wanting the give developers full access to the SE!
It won't eliminate anything security related. Nor will it cause any problems to anyone who wants to stick with the Apple app store. It will eliminate a truck ton of frustration though.
 

ponzicoinbro

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It won't eliminate anything security related. Nor will it cause any problems to anyone who wants to stick with the Apple app store. It will eliminate a truck ton of frustration though.

It won’t eliminate any frustration. Side loading will just making piracy mainstream on iOS and developers will get pissed especially when pirate versions of their apps have been patched with viruses.

It’s like people didn’t learn a lesson from everything that has been happening on desktop computers and companies held hostage with ransomware. Hey here’s a bright idea, let’s make that happen on over a billion phones.
 

ponzicoinbro

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The problem with crypto is that it failed at the objectives it was set out to achieve.

Unless the objective was originally and always to funnel the money from the masses into the hands of a few people who found out a way to do so anonymously or from safe distance like some off shore private islands with max security.
 

sideshowuniqueuser

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It won’t eliminate any frustration. Side loading will just making piracy mainstream on iOS and developers will get pissed especially when pirate versions of their apps have been patched with viruses.

It’s like people didn’t learn a lesson from everything that has been happening on desktop computers and companies held hostage with ransomware. Hey here’s a bright idea, let’s make that happen on over a billion phones.
Sheesh, you'd think macOS is a big disaster the way you talk about it.
 

TightLines

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Time for Apple so start proving it deserves the 30% cut, by safeguarding users from scam apps. Not only scam apps, but just shoddy and misleading apps in general. What's the point of having a walled garden if it's full of weeds and grifters.
I agree - or alternatively, they can go to the Google playstore where they allow any old piece of junk to be distributed.
 

TightLines

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Wow! A lot of crypto hate here.

Crypto apps are some of my most-frequently used apps! I have a whole folder just for them on my iPhone. Lots of CeFi, exchanges, index trackers, and payment apps. Both my bank app and broker app even allow crypto purchases.

To an end-user, many cryptocurrencies can work like investments or stocks. Yes, many can be highly volatile, but you can't dismiss them ALL because some are bad. There are services that hold crypto as collateral for loans, or will lend your crypto out to other people and in turn pay you (like some brokers lending stocks). Some companies offer trading bots or arbitrage trading services to generate revenue. If you've maxed out some more traditional portfolios, why not add some crypto? Even JPMorgan has suggested investors should look at adding some Bitcoin to diverse their portfolios.

The crypto has the value it has because that is the value the market has given it (just like many other things). And because it's so desired, that creates new markets and jobs and even its own economy. You can think of it as a fad like Tulips or Beanie Babies, but that doesn't make it any less valid.

Regulating it and moving more of it to proof-of-stake would help take care of some of the fears and volatility, and greatly reduce its energy impact.

As for its "crash", BTC is up 637% and ETH is up 586% over the past 5 years.
Lots of Skinner box participants around defending the scams they fall for, but that’s understandable - they have been conditioned to think and behave that way.

”Psychologist B.F. Skinner conducted trials during the early 1930s in which he conditioned animals to respond to certain stimuli in closed chambers that became known as Skinner Boxes”

research that and you will see the allure of crypto (anything) and why those who fall for the scam of it all will continue to do so until they’ve been bled for all that can be taken from them is gone… it’s called being sucked dry… the vampire squids of Wall Street have been perfecting the craft for a century or longer…
 

ponzicoinbro

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Sheesh, you'd think macOS is a big disaster the way you talk about it.

Clearly you didn’t think before you hit the reply button.

Ransomware and viruses attack popular platforms.

The main target on the desktop is Windows because most corporate desktop users are using that OS. You already know that.

if macOS was a lot more popular in corporate spaces such as finance, energy and government then major cyber threat actors would attack that OS.

iOS is a lot more common than macOS in corporate environments. iPhones carry a lot more sensitive data and financial apps than desktop Macs do. People have been cracking it and installing pirate apps since day one 15 years ago. Malware and spyware has been targeting it since day one also. Pegasus and other methods have been used to assassinate people.

Android’s Play Store and side loading is full of cloned apps, fake apps that steal data.

Last night over 8000 people on a single craptocurrency network lost millions of dollars worth of tokens from an exploit and they still don’t know how. These are happening 2-3 times a week.

If you anyone even remotely supports the idea that iPhones should be as easy to attack as Windows desktops, I it should be worth advising stopping such individuals from giving security advice in workplaces, they should have developer accounts revoked and they should be sent for seminars at cyber security businesses until their synapses start working.
 
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RalfTheDog

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You don’t need a blockchain for that. You’re describing a digital signature. The tricky part is trust/identity — you can either use a CA (which costs money, ties it to your government ID, or similar) or some kind of Web of Trust, which a block chain is a needlessly inefficient form of.

Blockchains are theoretically interesting data structures but in practice pointless.
The difference between a digital signature and a timestamp is the timestamp. It's not just that you had the document. It's that you had the document at a specific time.
 
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