What about choosing not to give up a bunch of space to a useless installation data for the new OS that you don't want to use?
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Apple's App Store Usage Numbers Peg iOS 7 Adoption at 78%
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You don't have a choice in that. Which is unfortunate, but that merely adds another aspect to consider between updating or not updating.
It's definitely unfortunate and definitely adds to the unbalanced reality of the "adoption" rate, where some might end up updating just because of this and wouldn't have otherwise (so it's not forced automatically per se, but not far off from that line of thinking in a scenario like that).
Are you kidding me? Google Play works on Android version 2.2 and above. For older devices, there is the Android Market, which essentially links back to Google Play but excludes apps that are not compatible.
iOS7 has some nice features.
If it wasn't such a chore to look at, they'd be worth ditching iOS6 for.
But it is, and they're not.
If it wasn't such a chore to look at, they'd be worth ditching iOS6 for.
But it is, and they're not.
This is very cool to see but I personally can't wait until 3.5 screens are no longer supported (it will fix fragmentation work more than OS). I'm guessing by the time they drop support for 3.5 a larger phone will be out tho.
I'd like to see numbers on how many people regretted it after updating.
Well there's something positive on which to focus.
You are describing a reality as it is. For that, +1.
However that reality exposes the nasty side of Apple. Steve Jobs was a genius but he was also an insecure control freak. He demanded perfection which was good for consumers, but his demand for loyalty and acceptance, not so much. Unfortunately, those two less awesome aspects of Steve Jobs live on in Apple today. Apple's mentality is:
"hey all you creative 'take the other road' genius, crazy, non-conformist types, you MUST conform to 100% of what we whimsically want you to conform to or we would rather have you use the competition."
Hmm! Interesting! My friend have exactly same device! She is still running iOS 6 on it and am surprised Apple have not forced her yet to do the upgrade!!
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I'd like to see numbers on how many people regretted it after updating.
That kind of question is usually asked by, I would say minority of people dissatisfied with iOS 7
Or people who would actually want to see numbers with some meaning behind them rather than unbalanced numbers that don't really say much one way or another.Hmm! Interesting! My friend have exactly same device! She is still running iOS 6 on it and am surprised Apple have not forced her yet to do the upgrade!!
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That kind of question is usually asked by, I would say minority of people dissatisfied with iOS 7
If you had the blobs for iOS 6.x.x, you'd use Tiny Umbrella. You would've had to have gotten the iOS specific blob when Apple was still signing for it; you can't get it now. You can't use someone else's either. Also, you'd have to have a phone that could utilize the blobs. iPhone 5 and above definitely can't to my knowledge. I'm not sure about 4S.
Anybody who wanted all those GBs of wasted space back was forced to update. Anybody who wanted to use FaceTime was forced to update when Apple broke it in iOS 6.0. They deliberately left FaceTime usable in iOS6, despite having developed a working fix. How is that not forcing the hand of users?
Or people who would actually want to see numbers with some meaning behind them rather than unbalanced numbers that don't really say much one way or another.
And how do you propose that is done? Asking 400 million (more or less) people if they are happy with iOS?
It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Apple stop supporting older iOS versions, so devs release fewer apps that support them, so customers with older iOS versions don't bother visiting app store, then Apple can claim high adoption rate of new iOS because more people using it visit the store.
I am for one... I've used both 6 and 7, which I could put on my iPhone 4, I genuinely find them worse.
My iPad 1 doesn't even have the option of going past 5.1.1, which is another reason I keep my phone at iOS 5 as well, it's a more consistent experience.
I'll go to 7 (or 8 or whatever...) when I upgrade devices.
I wonder how many people are still with me on ios5...
I am for one... I've used both 6 and 7, which I could put on my iPhone 4, I genuinely find them worse.
My iPad 1 doesn't even have the option of going past 5.1.1, which is another reason I keep my phone at iOS 5 as well, it's a more consistent experience.
I'll go to 7 (or 8 or whatever...) when I upgrade devices.
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Apple cannot and will not please everybody. They make product decisions that work for the majority of their customers, and there will always be some people that need "more"... whether it's more expandability, more customization, more power, etc. Apple is willing to lose those people to competitors if need be. But plenty of people still "put up" with whatever limitation they experience, because often the complete package that Apple puts together is worth it.
I agree, Apple should not cache updates with the assumption that the user will eventually install the update. Despite that, it is still the user's choice to update or not. If iOS 7 is really so bad, isn't it worth losing some space on your device to keep an obviously superior OS? And Apple did fix the FaceTime issue- in iOS 7. They have no obligation to release point updates for older versions when the device supports the latest version. Apple released iOS 6.1.5 for the 4th gen iPod touch because it cannot support iOS 7. Again, it's the user's choice to miss out on the bug fix by staying on iOS 6.
It's also the user's choice to keep using iOS to begin with. If you want more choice, Android is the way to go.
Yes, all true, but I suspect what you're doing here is arguing the semantics of 'forced'. Yes, we users have the option, but we are being 'forced' into selecting one of those options by some underhand tactics from Apple. Purposely withholding a critical bug fix is low. Forcing 1-3GB of data into a user's 16GB of storage is low. Not illegal, not a breach of contract, not a sin, just low.
Personally I like iOS7, but I really don't want my wife to install it on her iPhone4 because it will only end one way - she will complain that it used to be fine, now runs unbearably slow and we will 'forced' to replace a perfectly usable device. This outcome sounds way too convenient for Apple for me to call it anything other than a deliberate forcing of our hand.
They're not purposely withholding the FaceTime fix. They released it, some people just don't want the other changes that come with it. There's a legitimate reason why Apple caches update data- it does make the update process quicker once initiated. It's not "low", but I can see how it is frustrating. If the intent was to punish those who choose not to update, it would be low. But the intent is to make it easier on the average user.
Regarding iOS 7 on the iPhone 4, apparently iOS 7.1 betas 1 and 2 run a bit better on the 4 than previous versions of iOS 7. Still, it is a three and a half year old device with a single core CPU and a slightly faster GPU than what was contained in the 3GS (while pushing 4x the pixels). iOS 7 is a more visually taxing OS than iOS 6, so it's only logical that it would run slower than iOS 6 does. Typically, the more advanced the software gets, the better hardware it needs to run well. iOS has become significantly more complex in the years since the iPhone 4 was released, and it shows. Hopefully iOS 8 is a Snow Leopard-type release that places an emphasis on performance and speed- that would be awesome!
And yes, I was somewhat arguing about semantics. The inability to obtain the outcome you most desire does not correlate to a lack of choice. The choices you have are simply not the ones you want. So yes, you are "forced" to select out of the choices you have, but in no way are you forced to select the choice to update to iOS 7. It's not underhanded, either- Apple is choosing to continue to support the devices that can update to iOS 7, some people are just choosing to not update. If you choose not to update, you shouldn't expect Apple to make special accommodations- their effort is rightly being spent on improving iOS 7. If Apple doesn't make the accommodations you desire, you have the right to walk away from Apple.
Okay, thanks. Agree to disagree etc. but that part quoted above... We all know it's an old phone, and we know it will struggle to run the latest software. Apple knows this too, yet they still withheld the fix from iOS6. They gave us a choice between FaceTime and performance. They could very easily have given a third option: FaceTime AND performance, but chose not to. A phone which otherwise works as well as the day it was bought, must now either lose a key feature or lose performance for no reason other than Apple deems it thus.
So all that planing and knowing what you are doing could at still only at best apply to just a small subgroup that might have a device that it could potentially work on.
Apple goes to extreme lengths to advance the technology. I have been tinkering with iOS/XCode since iOS4 and XCode 3.x. It seems that whenever Apple decides to change a programming interface or further develops the underlying frameworks, they don't just add new functionality. They completely change the formats, data methods, or even paradigms of design behind the class' intended use. This breaks compatibility with the old code, and requires non-trivial re-writes to maintain functionality.
They also radically change the UI in XCode, requiring several weeks of adjustment, as settings and functions now look different or are in completely different places. It's totally annoying. In fact, the Big Nerd Ranch actually suggested on their forums that everyone post hard to find elements as bugs to Apple, since, in their opinion, there was NO REASON to move these in the first place.
Change is good. Unnecessary change is not.
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Back when it applied to all the phones, people still didn't save their blobs. People would ask how to restore their iOS to whatever version and get mad; they didn't bother to get the blobs, but it was Apple's fault and not theirs.
Upgrading isn't something that should be done carelessly--especially on an older device. Yet it astounds me how many iPhone 4 users upgraded to iOS 7. FYI, iPhone 4 users are able to downgrade if they have the appropriate blob.
Upgrading isn't something that should be done carelessly--especially on an older device. Yet it astounds me how many iPhone 4 users upgraded to iOS 7. FYI, iPhone 4 users are able to downgrade if they have the appropriate blob.
Wrong and wrong...I am currently in the process of being forced to update...because my Ipad 4 is in a condition which requires me to do a restore (I'm not sure yet whether that will solve the problem, but hoping so)...but to your comment...I did my due diligence researching iOS7, and decided it was not for me, due to a number of reasons...I CHOSE not to adopt 7, even after Apple so kindly stole storage space with an installer package I neither wanted nor asked for...but now, if I want to use my device, I'm having this forced onto it, and I am pissed...if it weren't for the amount of money i have tied into the ecosystem, I'd damn sure move to another device...so to your original hypothesis, here I am, a user who chose not to adopt, yet is forced to anyway...and I am 100% sure I am not the only one out of the 78% in this same situation