I suppose we should get rid of the law that says people shouldn’t be allowed to drink and drive because you know I don’t need to be protected from them. I mean I just want to push back a few at the end of the day and drive home so I don’t have to pay for a taxi and save some cash. Damn those people who have other people’s interest in mind other than my own because I might hit someone and cause an accident.
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Apple's Arguments Against Sideloading on iOS: All Your Questions Answered
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Ultimately if a user is careful and aware of what is being downloaded, sideloading cannot harm. But everyone may not be so careful. Only in this case can sideloading do harm. Apple is all about security. So don't see apple ever allowimg sideloading on iOS unless they are forced to do it by a court order
Drinking and driving impacts others. Grandma getting malware on her phone most likely doesn’t.
Apple has the ability to remotely kill apps that are found to be malicious. Between that, app sandboxing, and the apparently 6 people who have the common sense not to install apps from untrusted sources, that should be sufficient.
I'd argue Apple needs to drop the prohibition on side-loading -- for two basic reasons. One is they're obviously having problems of their own curating the App Store and keeping the spam out. But the other is scriptability. iOS devices are now powerful enough that they can run some pretty heavy duty software, and for example in statistics, there are no versions of Stata or R available for iOS simply because the ability to write custom commands for these apps interferes with the rules of the App Store......even though the iPad Pro and I suspect A15-equipped iPhones have more than enough power to run these apps. Stata for iOS would enable me to switch from a secondary MacBook to an iPad Pro for backup -- far more useful because of the touch display and the ability to use it as a second screen for a MacBook.
Therefore we don't want an even worse outcome such as side loading where a government doesn't need to bend a company because users will be compromised by deceitful developers anyway.
There are lots of people who drink and drive and never hurt a soul. It probably happening tens of thousands of times each night. You ‘most likely‘ won’t get into an accident. Heck if you drove home this even you likely drove near someone.
The fact is grandma scaled up in numbers ’WILL’ affect someone. Just like drunk driving ‘will’ affect someone eventually. Sometimes they just bump into your car and nothing happens. Grandma might only get a few more adds that collect her data.
Other times the driver kills someone and other times your grandma’s contacts get downloaded and because she puts her passwords in her contacts her bank account gets stolen and whatever else they can do.
Does it happen often, probably not, but the thing is it can happen and we are only talking about grandmas.
Heard that, as a former student who struggled working in his stats class with an iPad as a “laptop.” The fact that browser-based solutions like RStudio Server and code-server are what’s required to make the iPad even barely usable for relatively common use cases is a damn embarrassment.
That sounds like a grandma problem. If apps have unfettered access to grandma’s contacts, that’d be an Apple problem.
With that line of thinking, maybe iOS isn’t actually so secure and the App Store is the only thing keeping the house of cards from collapsing.
I’m sure one of Apple’s goals is to prevent that from every happening. So yeah Apple can’t be responsible for everything people do on their iPhones, they are also a brand who wants to protect their customers and likely chooses that limiting some features and apps to protect others from this kind of issue is a better choice.
This is especially strong when customers who want to side load apps can use Android or jailbreak their iPhone. Its already a hassle for them to manage their own App Store and keep the standard they currently have. Opening it up to other stores would only degrade that system and likely would not result in more profitability for them.
Tim Cook even publicly said If you want to side load you should go to Android. People have that choice. Speak with your wallet if you want to compel Apple to change.
Or they can bury an option to install non-App Store apps in settings behind 5 flashing red dialogs and then I can safely do real work on my iPad because I’m not a simpleton.
Also, Apple wants to protect their Services revenue much more than they’ll ever care about their customers.
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Your opinion but if you are being blocked so much than you’re the one who’s the simpleton for not getting an Android tablet.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting to get different results. Albert Einstein.
Multibillion companies get hacked. Enhancing security is priority number one. Those EU bureaucrats are clueless and I'm a European.
The latest one was that Keyboard App for the Apple Watch. Apple kept mobbing the developer, blocking releases without reason till he gave up, and suddenly they released an own equally working Keyboard version.
Apple is evil down to the roots.
Apple and a few of its heads should be sued and fined to hell. Well, at least Apple will.
It's simple. All who wants sideloading have valid reasons IF iOS was the only mobile platform. In reality, it's not.
So, consumers already have a choice if they want a platform that allow sideloading. That's Android. That's choice. iOS' existence is actually providing more choice as it offers a walled garden approach to those who want to. Demanding iOS to be like Android is actually removing choice, as now you only have two platforms that are more of the same.
Conformity != choice. Wanting iOS to be like Android is just conformity.
So, consumers already have a choice if they want a platform that allow sideloading. That's Android. That's choice. iOS' existence is actually providing more choice as it offers a walled garden approach to those who want to. Demanding iOS to be like Android is actually removing choice, as now you only have two platforms that are more of the same.
Conformity != choice. Wanting iOS to be like Android is just conformity.
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No they're not. I'm guessing you never even use one.
If you want an iPad to be like a Mac, then you need a Mac, not an iPad. Or just get a Windows 2-in-1 laptop. Get the right tools for the job, not demanding the tools to change just for your sake.
And why is that I wonder? Maybe they have not been able to attract enough users to their platform because of the security on their OS. I‘m sure there are plenty of tablets out there that will do the things you want them to do on their hardware. I’m sure Google or Samsung has made something.
I see your point, but that exist in many non-computer related life situations, too.
These bad guys will always find a way to scam users, e.g by linking that email to a officially reviewed and notarized fake (widely well known) App in the iOS AppStore, just like recently here:
Apples AppStore is security by obscurity.
Looks like Apple mainly employs non-tech savvy reviewers, because this happens all the time. Recognising a fake GoodNotes 6, specially as a trained reviewer, is something that even a Monkey could do.
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What are you going to feel if sideloading becomes a mandate somehow across the world? Cause if Russia can force Apple preload government approved apps, so does many other countries. Maybe US will be the last “pristine” land to not be forced to do so but who knows.
The number of people who will be scammed will increase to the point where regulators will have to jump back in and admit they were wrong. People will demand answers and then we will see the lobbyists who bribed the regulators. I really hope that will result in big jail sentences for corruption. Lobbying is a big problem and we must finally ban it.
But in those countries that are already controlled by military and authoritarian criminal oligarchs, those people will be permanently ****ed if their leaders force them to side load apps that collect everything and give it to the regime.
YOU DON’T WANT TO PLAY BY APPLE’S RULES, DON’T USE THEIR DEVICES! NOBODY IS FORCING ANYONE TO PURCHASE AN IOS DEVICE OR DISTRIBUTE YOUR APPS ON THE PLATFORM. WHY IS IT BEING SUCH A BIG DEAL??? Go solve world hunger and climate change and stop wasting your time and resources on this. People have a free choice - want to side load, buy Android. Want to be in a sand box, buy Apple. Problem solved.
LOL i don't even know what to say to this, because it feels awkward reading it.
I wonder where we were, if all was AppStore controlled from the beginning, from Servers, Routers, Switches to Macs, PCs, Macs, etc.
Almost our whole world runs on hardware and software where sideloading is possible.
Incl. your Bank Servers, Stock Exchanges, Hospitals, Police Stations, Other critical Infrastructure Hardware and probably even Reactors, etc. Our world wouldn't exist if sideloading were never possible.
Not even macOS, iOS, iPadOS would exist, because its based on multiple Software Sources that was freely available(KHTML,FreeBSD and more).
Those statements sounds like the next Zombie apocalypse will break in if they allow sideloading.
But they will get forced anyway, again "Digital Markets Act" to the rescue.
You heard it here first. The only difference between an iPhone and Android is sideloading. There are no other factors that a user might consider when making their purchasing decision. You can have a pizza with cheese. If you don't like it, you can have a salad. Don't you dare ask for other toppings.
No one chose iOS because it's a walled garden. Certainly not because they don't allow sideloading of apps.
Yes I did, because I am not caught in the obscurity distortion field that Apple is pushing. That same paper hardly touches on the increase in zero day issues, and malware found on their own platform. Additionally, Did you know that many of the source documents in Apple's report don't specifically call out Android at all?
Lets look at their very first source citation within this 31 page marketing paper.
What MacRumors posted.
What was actually said in Apple's paper, in a bold section, right next to an unrelated comment about Android. (This is a classic psychological marketing trick to cause an inference)
Apple lists the source.
The source says the following
The Word Android is never used in that report.
There are other instances in Apple's report where I can only assume they expect readers to assume they are talking about Android, but they are actually citing Computing in general, malware in general, ransomware in general, not Android specifically.
At the same time I bet there are some solid facts mixed into that report, but I question some of the numbers as a few sources explain if the devices are even current (with modern security patches) devices, or old relics being used in lower income situations worldwide. Android is a Much much bigger ecosystem than iOS, and there are millions more devices (mostly currently unsupported) that can greatly inflate these malware numbers to make Apple look far more secure than it actually is.