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I HATE the whole idea!

I used to walk to a shop buy a CD with a HARD copy it was MINE I paid for it! a physical copy I had controll over.

Then we had MP3's with that lovely DRM removed to let us do WHAT WE WANT and had a PHYSICAL file on my laptop or pc it was MY FILE.

So what we saying now?

Upload all YOUR music your PAID for back to Apple or whatever company running it so they have the whole controll to pull it all when they want!

No copys, no files, all on the server and it dont stop there it will be personal stuff soon eventualy everything cloud based and your trust in the company to keep this all safe!

NO WAY I'll stick to my few terabyte hard disk and stream it from MY PC not THERE servers!

Never heard of mainframes? Computers are just coming full circle, that's all, with the internet replacing local connections.
 
No doubt ONLY iTunes-purchased tunes and ONLY in the US. Then when it becomes more than half-assed in version 2, a few more European countries will get in. Then Japan in about 3 years time.
 
I am glad that my sentiment reflects the majority on here.

If this is really what is about to be revealed, its not really that much of a big deal and most wont use it (except out of curiosity).

I appreciate the whole SJ henry ford quote and all, but his is really an unusable concept for the majority that like to be in control.

My opinion.
 
ooohhh well they may aswell have all your years of personal information on the server farm!

why dont we all just send them our hardrives? then whoever works in that place can do that evil laugh MWHAHAHAHAHAHA! the power all that information!!!!

this is the way of controlling what we do if it gets to us uploading everything to a cloud server.

time machine back up to cloud? yeah? what stops apple cracking that open to see what im up to?
 
time machine back up to cloud? yeah? what stops apple cracking that open to see what im up to?

The Law? :confused:

What stops a burglar from robbing your mac or external HD, or from a spyware program from logging your key strokes.

I honestly don't see the problem...
 
The Law? :confused:

What stops a burglar from robbing your mac or external HD, or from a spyware program from logging your key strokes.

I honestly don't see the problem...

the law did a great job when they lost people records in the uk on a CD, and the fact is people do break in what law controlls apple?

they even tracking iphone locations now!
 
the law did a great job when they lost people records in the uk on a CD, and the fact is people do break in what law controlls apple?

they even tracking iphone locations now!

I trust in apple's IT competence far more than any British Minister. Anything government run has a joke IT infrastructure from the inland revenue to the students loan company. :p
 
Internet data usage is increasing and internet data caps are decreasing. This doesn't seem good...

Well, on a 256kbps stream (not sure if the music would get re-encoded or if the service would allow you to select bitrate) you would use about 112.5 MB per hour of streaming. If you had a 30 minute commute each way to work, you are looking at (roughly) going over your allowance in a month (AT&T USA) without any other data usage. (60 mins x 20 days = 2,250MB ).

I'm not sure this is sustainable unless the telecom providers stop putting small data caps on usage...
 
they even tracking iphone locations now!

They don't use that information, it's just on your phone and in back ups. I'm sure now people have kicked up a fuss about it, they will do something to encrypt or remove that file. It's hardly on the same scale as google recording data from unsecure wi-fi networks in people's homes, using their mapping vans.
 
Storing my files so that apple can dictate what I can or can't have on their servers? Companies essentially owning my content?

Yeah I think I'll pass.

Cloud based services are anti-technology, with garbage like this companies have no incentive to increase capacities on storage devices and all content would be under a corporation's server who's sole basis is to make money while holding your data hostage.

Apple specifically is one of the most unethical companies out there.
 
Well, on a 256kbps stream (not sure if the music would get re-encoded or if the service would allow you to select bitrate) you would use about 112.5 MB per hour of streaming. If you had a 30 minute commute each way to work, you are looking at (roughly) going over your allowance in a month (AT&T USA) without any other data usage. (60 mins x 20 days = 2,250MB ).

I'm not sure this is sustainable unless the telecom providers stop putting small data caps on usage...

You get 2GB bandwidth allowance? Most tarrifs in the UK are capped at 500MB. :(
 
Storing my files so that apple can dictate what I can or can't have on their servers? Companies essentially owning my content?

Yeah I think I'll pass.

Cloud based services are anti-technology, with garbage like this companies have no incentive to increase capacities on storage devices and all content would be under a corporation's server who's sole basis is to make money while holding your data hostage.

Apple specifically is one of the most unethical companies out there.


Why they hell are you on these forums then?

You, along with others, are making a pretty big assumption. Why does it have to be exclusively streaming? Why couldn't apple allow you to download the itunes you want onto your computer, but at the SAME TIME, allow you stream it if you wanted?

The data cent is huge and costly. And if you think about, we can already stream 90 seconds of a song on itunes, so why would they need such a big data center if their only plan was itunes streaming?

I think itunes streaming is coming, but I think its a small part of something much bigger.
 
They should just enable wireless sync and then i would be able to have my entire music collection anywhere i go
 
You really think apple is going to let you store music that you didn't buy from them for free? My guess is all music purchased from iTunes can be streamed, and mobile me users can upload theirs.

Another post afflicted with apple content profits fallacy. The ONLY reason apple will restrict it to only new purchases is because of music company licensing restrictions. As the recent numbers revealed, apple makes a pittance on the iTunes store. At least the folks displaying this fallacy with apps have the fair argument that promoting app sales makes the iOS platform sticky. With the absolutely drm free music sold in the iTunes store, there is no advantge for apple to sell music.

This also ignores apple's history completely. One reason media companies hated apple was because they added cd ripping software straight in their flagship music player software. But not just that, they promoted the Mac by marketing its ability to easily rip music CDs.
 
. Why does it have to be exclusively streaming? Why couldn't apple allow you to download the itunes you want onto your computer, but at the SAME TIME, allow you stream it if you wanted?

Because then he couldn't whine about how evil apple is.

The comments here are so hilarious. There is a rumor about a product that has never been announced. People start imagining all sorts of restrictions on this unannounced rumored product. They then complain about hoe apple is so evil to be imposing these restrictions, which they imagined, on an unannounced, unreleased rumored product.
 
I really do not get this either - so I can back up my media files to Apples servers?

I have a macbook pro, iphone, ipad and we have a family iMac my music collection is stored on all of these and a time capsule why would I want to store it all again in a (often) inaccessible place?

I am a UK user and I subscribe to Spotify and it has its glitches (and annoyingly some content holes) but it is fantastic! I cannot believe that Apple would not be going down this route at some point.

or

Maybe Apple want to extend the social networking aspect of its business, maybe you could 'lend' cloud stored content to friends? just like we used to borrow LPs of our friends for the weekend etc? I think this is way they might be going with this.
 
Another post afflicted with apple content profits fallacy. The ONLY reason apple will restrict it to only new purchases is because of music company licensing restrictions. As the recent numbers revealed, apple makes a pittance on the iTunes store. At least the folks displaying this fallacy with apps have the fair argument that promoting app sales makes the iOS platform sticky. With the absolutely drm free music sold in the iTunes store, there is no advantge for apple to sell music.

This also ignores apple's history completely. One reason media companies hated apple was because they added cd ripping software straight in their flagship music player software. But not just that, they promoted the Mac by marketing its ability to easily rip music CDs.

Fallacy. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
Well, on a 256kbps stream (not sure if the music would get re-encoded or if the service would allow you to select bitrate) you would use about 112.5 MB per hour of streaming. If you had a 30 minute commute each way to work, you are looking at (roughly) going over your allowance in a month (AT&T USA) without any other data usage. (60 mins x 20 days = 2,250MB ).

I'm not sure this is sustainable unless the telecom providers stop putting small data caps on usage...

That is quite the assumption. Logic would suggest they would transcode your music (or give the option at least) to something like 32-64 Kbps when using 3G / 4G.
 
The comments here are so hilarious. There is a rumor about a product that has never been announced. People start imagining all sorts of restrictions on this unannounced rumored product. They then complain about hoe apple is so evil to be imposing these restrictions, which they imagined, on an unannounced, unreleased rumored product.

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Good call... it is really humorous to read a lot of the comments, and the best part is the speculation gets more intense with every page. Haha... just funny.
I am really curious to see what Apple has up its sleeves though, (some of their ideas have tanked), but they don't have a huge reputation for disappointment...
 
Fallacy. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I think it's a fallacy to believe that apple will reduce the desirability of their hardware products, on which they make a ton of money, in order to spur sales of content, on which they break even.

Maybe fallacy is not the correct word. Apologies, since English isn't my first language (although I don't think it's incorrect usage either). But the point is simple. There is literally no reason to believe apple would skimp on user experience in order to sell more songs on iTunes.
 
It will probably work the way Amazon's new service does. Only the music you purchase moving forward can be synced in the cloud.

not sure who down-rated this because its a good point, and one that i was going to bring up, to mention that amazon has already launched their service, so why is that not significant enough to mention in the original post? Amazon is a pretty big player in terms of e-commerce and the cloud. and yes, i believe they only allow content purchased from the amazon store to be stored on their servers...i don't see why apple wouldn't follow suit. it's the only way to guarantee the legitimacy of the content. this might be unattractive to consumers, but apple doesn't want you to download music for free from other sources. they want you to buy from them, for obvious reasons, so it makes sense that they would only allow itunes-purchased media to be stored on their servers, too. if you don't like it, tough noogies. but i guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
 
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Good call... it is really humorous to read a lot of the comments, and the best part is the speculation gets more intense with every page. Haha... just funny.
I am really curious to see what Apple has up its sleeves though, (some of their ideas have tanked), but they don't have a huge reputation for disappointment...

Ironically, there is a rumor (one more!) that specifically debunks all the "sky is falling" speculation here.

Not that I give much credence to any of thi (with the ipad, i learnt that it is best to assume no one really knows what they are talking about when speculating about apple), but I put a little more value in the words of wsj journalists than ms rumors commenters.

http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/201...-apples-music-locker-and-amazons-label-deals/
 
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