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Following the WWDC keynote last week, Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi spoke with TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino about the new Stage Manager feature for iPad and Mac. Notably, he elaborated on Stage Manager being limited to M1 iPads.

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On the iPad, Stage Manager allows users to resize apps into overlapping windows for an improved multitasking experience. Stage Manager also fully supports an external display with up to 6K resolution, allowing users to work with up to four apps on the iPad and up to four apps on the external display simultaneously.

In a statement shared with Rene Ritchie last week, Apple asserted that Stage Manager "requires large internal memory, incredibly fast storage, and flexible external display I/O, all of which are delivered by iPads with the M1 chip." Federighi elaborated on that rationale in his chat with Panzarino, telling him that the power of the M1 chip ensures that all apps being used in Stage Manager are "instantaneously responsive."

"It's only the M1 iPads that combined the high DRAM capacity with very high capacity, high performance NAND that allows our virtual memory swap to be super fast," said Federighi. "Now that we're letting you have up to four apps on a panel plus another four – up to eight apps to be instantaneously responsive and have plenty of memory, we just don't have that ability on the other systems," such as the previous-generation iPad Pro.

Released in April 2021, the iPad Pro with an M1 chip is available with up to 16GB of RAM, compared to 6GB in the previous iPad Pro. Apple also advertises the M1 iPad Pro as having 2x faster storage and up to 40% faster GPU performance compared to the previous model. Apple also released an iPad Air with the same M1 chip in March 2022.

"We really designed Stage Manager to take full advantage [of the M1 chip]," said Federighi. "If you look at the way the apps tilt and shadow and how they animate in and out. To do that at super high frame rates, across very large displays and multiple displays, requires the peak of graphics performance that no one else can deliver."

"When you put all this together, we can't deliver the full Stage Manager experience on any lesser system," added Federighi. "I mean, we would love to make it available everywhere we can. But this is what it requires. This is the experience we're going to carry into the future. We didn't want to constrain our design to something lesser, we're setting the benchmark for the future."

As for Stage Manager on the Mac, Federighi said there are already "so many different ways" to multitask on macOS, such as using Mission Control or the Command-Tab keyboard shortcut to switch between apps, and Stage Manager is simply another tool in the toolbox.

"On the Mac, there are so many different ways to work. Some people use spaces, some people are in and out of Mission Control. Some people are command tab people, some people like to create a mess, some people clean up their messes and some people use minimization. I mean, there's no wrong answer here, there are a lot of valid ways to work on the Mac."

"If 20% of the users on the Mac end up saying that this is another great tool in the quiver for them… that's fantastic," he said.

Article Link: Apple's Craig Federighi Further Explains Why Stage Manager is Only for M1 iPads
 
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dantracht

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No explanation in the world is going to satisfy everyone with this one. Sorry, Craig. As for me I could care less for not having it. My iPad use has been reducing steadily ever since M1 came out. Only use my awesome mini 6 for bedtime reading now. Won’t miss this feature.
 
Why is this being dragged on? It sounds fishy.

"The power of the M1 chip ensures that all apps being used in Stage Manager are "instantaneously responsive."

How about instead of running multiple apps. Can you let us run a few apps using "Stage Manager" on my iPad Pro which does not have the M1 Chip? Instead of four apps… let me run two apps, please. I know it’s doable and the iPad without the M1 Chip can handle it.
 

BootsWalking

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"We really designed Stage Manager to take full advantage [of the M1 chip]," said Federighi. "If you look at the way the apps tilt and shadow and how they animate in and out. To do that at super high frame rates, across very large displays and multiple displays, requires the peak of graphics performance that no one else can deliver."

So decorative window dressings like shadows and ephemeral animations were deemed so essential to the functionality of Stage Manager that it was worth excluding several years of recent powerful products from its use? Those and external display support couldn't have been designed as runtime-optional depending on the processing speed and memory capacity of each running unit?

We all love you Craig but this is just ridiculous.
 
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Karma*Police

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He forgot to mention that iPad sales are in the gutter. Technically, even if what he says is true, they could probably have gotten away with 3 virtual workspaces instead of 4 on older iPads. 2018+ iPads are plenty fast.

Personally, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of not utilizing a big chunk of my screen real estate just to switch between apps. Most people I know don’t swap between groups of apps, either, which stage manager seems to have been optimized for… like virtual desktops.
 

citysnaps

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Want to use Stage Manager? Purchase an M1-based iPad. And find happiness.

Can't afford or don't want to purchase an M1-based iPad? Have an oversized embarrassing public whine and spout nefarious Apple conspiracy theories. And find happiness.

A win either way. I suspect most will go for the second option.
 

Menneisyys2

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back in iOS5 times, on WAY less capable hardware, the Jailbreak-based Quasar ran multiple programs just fine in multiwindow mode - I used it a lot on my iPad 2 (512MB RAM) and 3 (1GB RAM). That is, "multitasking / multiwindow requires a lot of hardware resources not available in older models" is simply not true. It's plain greed on Apple's part, nothing else.

EDIT (simple addition (NOT an edit of the above text in any form) a day later, answering to another question): at https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s.2348050/page-21?post=31186061#post-31186061 , I elaborated more on how Quasar worked on the iPad 3 running on iOS5.
 
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Menneisyys2

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Apple is not going to make people happy here either way. If they enabled Stage Manager for non M1 iPads people would either complain that it runs poorly or that they can’t open as many apps.
...too bad we can't find out whether it's indeed poor because we aren't given the chance by Apple.

Given the excellent hardware of even earlier-gen iPad Pros, I assume it woulnd't run THAT bad...
 

Menneisyys2

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"We really designed Stage Manager to take full advantage [of the M1 chip]," said Federighi. "If you look at the way the apps tilt and shadow and how they animate in and out. To do that at super high frame rates, across very large displays and multiple displays, requires the peak of graphics performance that no one else can deliver."

So decorative window dressings like shadows and ephemeral animations were deemed so essential to the functionality of Stage Manager that it was worth excluding several years of recent powerful products from its use? Those and external display support couldn't have been made optional depending on the processing speed and memory capacity of each running unit?

We all love you Craig but this is just ridiculous.
Definitely. Just look at how Quasar worked. No fancy animations, "just" freely resizable windows offering true overlapping-windowed multitasking.
 

falkon-engine

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Planned obsolescence. A12z and Core 2 Duos could run macOS with less than 8 GB RAM. Windowing support worked well with those processors. I'm still amazed at how well a Core 2 Duo performed with my favorite macOS versions like El Capitan and Sierra. But Apple wants your money so they cut you off from the 'cool features' if you don't have M1.
 

Sheepish-Lord

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I wonder if prices will depreciate for Non-M1 iPad's since it does not support the Stage Manager.
Most iPad users won’t know because they typically aren’t power users and all these “features” are buried in unnecessary literature. iPad values in general plummet on the used/refurbished market especially after Apple’s latest decrease in trade in value. iPads have the worst Apple trade in values after the Watch but in this case they won’t depreciate because if you want that feature odds are good you’re gonna know what the requirement is.
 

OwlBundy

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Why is this being dragged on? It sounds fishy.

"The power of the M1 chip ensures that all apps being used in Stage Manager are "instantaneously responsive."

How about instead of running multiple apps. Can you let us run a few apps using "Stage Manager" on my iPad Pro which does not have the M1 Chip? Instead of four apps… let me run two apps, please. I know it’s doable and the iPad without the M1 Chip can handle it.
How do you know it's doable? Do you have documentation to back this up or merely speculating?
 
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