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One thing has nothing to do with the other. Eric Schmidt was privy to Apple's high level product strategy. Most company's manage NOT to put potential competitors on their Board, and Apple has learned that lesson. That's different from sharing research results on the bleeding edge of technology. Most companies figure out how to balance that vs. management of company secrets.

Then you can handle things differently when you run Apple. Problem solved. In the meantime, Tim Cook earned the spot, and it's his call.
 
If you can claw through the nonsense in the 3rd paragraph...

Connect the dots and see that they say:
...The BIGGEST threat to Apple is that.... "most" ... new graduates from college may not want to work for them.

Uh, seriously?

Who writes this rot?

I highly doubt that new graduates in this crowded field are staying away from Apple in any capacity.
I suspect that Apple is the goal for nearly everyone of them.

Apple... or Starbucks.


They quote a professor of computer science who suggest his best students don't want to work for Apple. I don't know that this guy represents the majority of such professors; but it is not exactly nothing.
 
I asked Siri "How long does milk last?". Siri responded "128 minutes". Intrigued, I looked at the screen to see that Siri was referencing a movie called "milk", which I've never even heard of.

Does this have anything to do with secrecy? No.
PS: which "milk"? Human, etc. If you don't specify, Siri assumes it's the movie.
Same question in Italian brings up the same answers as Google's, because of the article "il" that clears ambiguity:
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Ahh, educators. Bless their hearts. Notice they quoted almost exclusively college professors?

I've noticed that professors always have these starry-eyed conception of how much their students actually care about the research and academic portions of their education.

In most cases the students interested in staying a part of the scientific community as defined by higher education become educators themselves, and not employees in a large corporation. By my observations, at least. Anybody looking for employment at a company like Apple probably won't care nearly as much as these gents expect.
 
How you people can defend a company that doesn't want to innovate is beyond me. Buying up companies in place of innovation is not the future but hey ho! I'm sure you business orientated Apple fans know what you are talking about. :rolleyes:
 
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How you people can defend a company that doesn't want to innovate is beyond me. Buying up companies in place of innovation is not the future but hey ho! I'm sure you business orientated Apple fans know what you are talking about. :rolleyes:
Are you talking about the company who innovated basically any segment it is currently working on?
 
Also he comes out with Adele and announce you get a free CD of her latest album with every purchase of Apple TV.

Well playing a CD in Apple products that no longer contain an optical drive will be something of a challenge. :eek:
 
Maybe an Apple employee can chime in (anonymously of course), but since I doubt they'll be honest, I'll go ahead and say it:
Apple operates at an almost isolated like environment for development and engineering, due to independent non-disclosure agreements. You can't have an employee working on the iPhone, talking to someone who works on the iMac at lunch about design aspects. Because how does the iMac employee know what he can or can't talk to his wife about?
So they all get separated.
I met an Apple software engineer. He said he worked in a small office, by himself, and only usually saw other engineers when he either needed guidance or a meeting about specs. But 95% of the time he's actually writing code, he's alone in an office.

This type of environment is due to Apple's very secretive operating policy for shareholders. Their stakeholders have a strong belief that keeping customers and public in the dark until announcements has a direct correlation on sales efforts.

While this might be true, the disconnection between their engineers and developers is a reason why iOS is starting to fall behind Android in a lot of major ways.

The other aspect of this that you don't realize is how terrible their separation policy is. Let me describe to you what happens if you're "fired" from Apple. Now, keep in mind, I'm not saying that someone who gets fired doesn't deserve to get fired. But you shouldn't just throw that blanket generalization around because not everyone gets let go for the same reasons, but NO one deserves to be let go like this. And if you think that this is okay, you're honestly a very inhumane person and I think the world is better off without anyone agreeing with you. Even Apple employees think this is harsh and cruel:
You'll be at work, and at a certain time, someone will knock on your door. There will be a security guard, your network will shut down and you'll have no intranet or outside web access. You'll be escorted away from your desk to be given separation papers and within minutes, you're outside of the building and that's the last you'll ever step foot on Apple campus.
You have no idea this was about to happen. Because if any of your superiors or coworkers "warn" you, they could have the same visit waiting for them (secrecy, NDA, etc). You might have an idea about it because of performance issues or other things, but your boss won't even warn you that you're on thin ice because of secrecy/NDA/etc. They don't want to risk you leaking information out of anger.
I've sworn never to work at Apple due to that, in an engineering capacity. I'll work for Google or even Microsoft, but Apple to me is very intimidating in that regard.

Sure, they are and will probably continue to be the #1 used device from a singular company but there's no denying that Android as an OS is starting to really make miles of progress ahead of iOS. It takes far too long to implement new features into their IDE. We still don't have a very good table/list design flow and Siri is pretty much garbage compared to Now and Cortana.

Siri is very very gimicky and most of all, she has no widely used predictive modeling. If you always ask her at 9:00 am every morning what the traffic is like between your home and office, there should be a very simple threshold to start giving you that information in the morning. And an easy opt out in case you don't want that. I could write the code for that in less than 20 lines. Why doesn't Siri have it?
 
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Then you can handle things differently when you run Apple. Problem solved. In the meantime, Tim Cook earned the spot, and it's his call.
Your quotes remind me of conversations with my children when they were toddlers.


You need to get out more. It was a very high profile film and won quite a number of awards, and brought big recognition for Sean Penn and basically launched James Franco on a new career path as a more serious actor.
You missed the point entirely.:oops:
 
"...many remain unsure of the Cupertino company's continued success in such departments if it remains attached to such strict secrecy rules. “They’re completely out of the loop," said Richard Zemel, a professor in the computer science department at the University of Toronto."

Is Apple out of the loop? Or are you mad because Apple won't keep YOU in the loop?

Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
 
Apple learned enough by sharing with Google back when Eric Schmidt was on the board. I'm glad they choose privacy as a focus instead of a free-for-all.
Apple already got majorly burned by Google from having Eric Schmidt on their board. So Bloomberg is just going to have to forgive them for wanting to keep most things under wraps and rely on the brilliant AI and voice recognition companies they've been acquiring to get things up to snuff.
Given the listening ears of its competitors, I agree. While progress may not be that fast, keeping things close to the vest is a good thing :)
This is the exact kind of stuff that leads to the backdoors non-poaching agreements. People are not slaves to any single company and have a right to work where they want.

By not sharing the article assumes that Apple will fall behind. But the reverse could be true as well -- by not sharing they can produce something revolutionary that no one was talking or even thinking about. For Apple it is a risk worth taking. Staying on Par will not cut it. Apple needs to leapfrog the competition as it has done in the past.

The article is completely right. The AI behind programs such as Siri ( or self-driving cars) requires a massive pool of talent. A good example is the Soviet Union. They were ostracized from the world community but managed to do okay during the industrial period where they built tanks, jet aircraft and copies of American cars. But when it came to the IT revolution they completely fell behind and we unable to catch up to technology such as GPS or self-guiding missiles. The point is certain cutting-edge technology just cannot be created in a vacuum.

My personal opinion is that a lot has changed since 2006 and the iPhone development. Back then social media was in it's infancy and the volume of products Apple needed to produce a lot lower too; so it was possible to keep secrets. Today anything they do will start rumors so there adherence to a culture of secrecy is too stubborn.
 
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You need to get out more. It was a very high profile film and won quite a number of awards, and brought big recognition for Sean Penn and basically launched James Franco on a new career path as a more serious actor.
Ya it's an important movie to watch.
 
I guess I'm the only person old enough to remember how much more useful Siri was before Apple purchased it.

I remember! To this day, I can't figure out why Apple gave Siri a lobotomy. When it was a standalone app you could have conversations with it and it would have a sense of context. Now... not so much.
 
Hummm.... a researcher is critical of a company that keeps it's research secret. Imagine that? :rolleyes:

I can't imagine Apple, Google or anyone else is out spewing their top most secrets at any university.
 
Really - enlighten me please.
Well smartphone, Music industry, the computer industry, all of those have been "innovated"by apple

Remember how smaphone were before the iPhone? (like this)
Remember how mp3 market was before iTunes Store (yeah i am talking about napster & co....you know the piracy stuff)
Remember how Mp3 player were before iPod? (yes their unusable interfaces?)
Should i carry on?

Without Apple people would still be using floppy drives.. enought said!
 
I don't see much factual data in this report. Just a lot of speculation.
 
Well smartphone, Music industry, the computer industry, all of those have been "innovated"by apple

Remember how smaphone were before the iPhone? (like this)
Remember how mp3 market was before iTunes Store (yeah i am talking about napster & co....you know the piracy stuff)
Remember how Mp3 player were before iPod? (yes their unusable interfaces?)
Should i carry on?

Without Apple people would still be using floppy drives.. enought said!

I said innovated, not take someone else's products and reuse them.
 
Innovate and invent are different things... to innovate : to make changes, do something in a new way, and that is what Apple did thank you very much.

I spent to much time with you.,.. off I go to enjoy some innovation!
 
Hummm.... a researcher is critical of a company that keeps it's research secret. Imagine that? :rolleyes:

I can't imagine Apple, Google or anyone else is out spewing their top most secrets at any university.

That's not what the article is saying, go back to the beginning and start again. This reminds me of the old adage "a little knowledge is dangerous".
 
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