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Indeed.
The question being: why would a previously respected business news outlet, publish a blatantly made up story designed to discredit products and services coming from China? And why this is happening at the time when the US administration has triggered a tariff war with China?

It was resepcted at some point? Genuine question. ~2 years ago before I blocked it (as I said in another thread) I regularly saw them publishing FUD. They to me have zero credibility.
 
Of course it might be prepared for Trump propaganda but:
1) Silent war between US and China is a fact.
2) China is still a country that violate basic human rights and steal technology.
3) If you cannot believe that China is spying read this article (of course China denied it):
https://qz.com/africa/1192493/china-spied-on-african-union-headquarters-for-five-years/
4) In case of eventual war conflict China may paralyse almost all network communication in US or EU (LTE GSM stations, wifi routers, wifi usb dongles, all Xiaomi, Huawei, Lenovo smartphones) and maybe even clean your bank accounts when you use bank account /credit card apps. Do you really think that Xiaomi sell smartphones with 5% profit to make a people happy? This is really naive.

Regarding spyware built on transistor level inside silicon chips: more complicated but quite obvious (chips may be reverse engineered and Xrayed).
Regarding this separate chip assembled in Chinese factory of SuperMicro: it is not so easy to add it because you need to add an additional component to the board files for pick and place tools and wave soldering. I do not buy that managment did not know it because it is not so easy to hide a process.
Regarding Apple arguments: they lied regarding iPhone battery issues and MacBook Pro keyboards. They even lie during keynote saying that screen is 120Hz.
 
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At this point, it's pretty obvious it's a fake story.

If the "hack" was discovered in 2015, how come Super Micro equipment is still being procured by the U.S. government and is still a GSA vendor?

This story has just enough techno-lingo to fool the kids or grandparents but anyone with a tech background would dismiss it.

An appropriate hack would have been at the mask level by designing logic right into the baseband management controller. Super Micro controls the BMC design and can add a backdoor at the transistor level.

Lol pretty obvious lol. Why cause Bruce spike up?

To me this seems more like Bruce Sewell is loyal enough to remain on retainer with Apple. Let’s see if Bruce gets another Apple payout in 12mths. If that occurs we’ll know wassup!

Timing is FAR too convenient for my liking. I don’t recall seeing this kind of protection from former executives of app for a news bite in the past unless a more wide scope interview of their career was done and something was asked.

Being totally 1 sided is blind. One of the other companies statements seems like they never heard of this not that they ever checked. That is scary for their business.
Mright now it’s he said she said and that’s all we may ever find out without a specific part and component confirmed to be rogue and shipped out to Apple and Amazon shown on PO’s.

Until then this he said she said will wither away.
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A device with 6 pins/pads, 2 for power, seems poorly suited to gain control of a 64 bit parallel data bus.
Bloomberg's article was written for dummies, and does not reliably source anything. It's not even clear that the object they show is the culprit, rather than a stock pic. A few of the pix only show 3 pins or pads and are clearly a different shape than the 6 pin/pad version. Which is it? Things seem deliberately nebulous here. Snookering is a definite possibility.

Until a part on a PO that was fulfilled from Smart Micro to Apple is shown with the part having the rogue hardware on it in multiples then it’s all he said she said.

One cannot dent fully stating no rogue parts are found if they’re unaware of which part is rogue on the hardware received.

Are you an electrician or computer engineer with component experience? How can you make such a vague statement about pins on a part can’t control a 64-bit data bus?! To me that sounds naive. If it’s on the board then it can affect the part.
 
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I wouldn’t write it off as a fake story just yet.
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Don’t always assume.

I did not say it was a fake story (even though everything points to that, and media outlets are known to lie)

I just said the truth is too big to hide. Sooner or later it will surface. I just hope whoever is lying will get properly done for it.
 
Trump deep-state operation to make Americans more willing to accept pain from tariffs on Chinese goods?
Kushner seems a likely source for Bloomberg. Could be any of a dozen different people though.
Maybe the reporter will let us know his source.

It’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory but we are living in ridiculous times. Somebody’s lying and this is too bold a set of lies for a company like Bloomberg or Apple. The most likely party is Bloomberg’s sources. I think the journos have been had, and if their range of sources is even a fraction as broad as they claim, then they’ve been had by a sophisticated conspiracy.
 
Pathetic has been that many here tended to believe this although there was more than strong reasons to doubt the story.
But I guess these posters won’t come forward to take their ********* of accusations back nor revise their own viewpoints.

I stand by my original post: Companies and governments always state what's best for them. Governments, journalists and their sources are all capable of lying. The have in the past, and will in the future.

IMO, I find it sad that many are so quick to dismiss and insult the media based only on what they believe is the right side of the story.

As to whether or nor this story turns out to be true or false, we may or may not ever know the real truth.
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It’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory but we are living in ridiculous times. Somebody’s lying and this is too bold a set of lies for a company like Bloomberg or Apple. The most likely party is Bloomberg’s sources. I think the journos have been had, and if their range of sources is even a fraction as broad as they claim, then they’ve been had by a sophisticated conspiracy.

I agree, but it makes me wonder why (besides stock manipulation) any party would make up this story.
 
Outsource all physical (assembly) work in China is like a heroin. Apple has so strong reputation on the market that could resign from wasting money on luxury stores and marketing because most of us buy it online. Reducing marketing cost Apple can have the same profits and guarantee good salary for american workers (honestly I do not care if they are from Mexico or Latino) so iPhone could be asembled in US under a control of US labour law. Some customers do not care where product is assembled but I would feel much better if 100$ from each sold iPhone thst cost a fortune now goes to US worker than to chinese antidemocracy government (Foxconn is just a label).
 
...american workers (honestly I do not care if they are from Mexico or Latino)

I don't understand your point.
No really, I don't.

Why should anyone care about the country of origin of an "American worker"?
Is the statement above meant to convey how flexible you can be?
What on earth is that about?
 
Am i just not understanding this correctly? (first lines of this article - emphasis mine)

~Apple's recently retired general counsel Bruce Sewell told Reuters he called the FBI's then-general counsel James Baker last year after being told by Bloomberg of an open investigation into Supermicro, and was told that nobody at the federal law enforcement agency knew what the story was about.

"I got on the phone with him personally and said, 'Do you know anything about this?," Sewell said of his conversation with Baker, reports Reuters. "He said, 'I've never heard of this, but give me 24 hours to make sure.' He called me back 24 hours later and said 'Nobody here knows what this story is about.'"

Sewell's comments are consistent with a statement Apple shared with Bloomberg Businessweek and on its Newsroom on Thursday:
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... Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our contacts in law enforcement.
Also from Apple's Newsroom:
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No one from Apple ever reached out to the FBI about anything like this, and we have never heard from the FBI about an investigation of this kind -- much less tried to restrict it.~


So Apple DID have contact with the FBI according to the above, therefore Apple blatently lied. amirite?
 
First rule of Fight Club, don’t ask.
Second rule, there is no Fight Club.
Sources & Methods at risk.
Maybe USA NSA was actually involved in the snooping....
 
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