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how is that not a compromising experience?

for one, you need to download both Office iPad and Office Mac to the device and keep both updated, taking up double the space.

among a hundred other reasons...
Same app, presenting a different UI based on whether it’s docked or not.

I think your definition of ‘compromise’ revolves around the developer or Apple, instead of the user, where it belongs. To the user, being able to use the iPad as a tablet or as a desktop is a convenience.
 
They do not say a lot there!
Clearly there are different use cases for both product types -
BUT it would be great to operate an iPad Pro in more Mac-Like manner if connected
to a keyboard and mouse (e.g. magic keyboard).

Also regardless of whether docked or not - the lack of a Filesystem and File-Selectors is really crippling the iPadPro.
The iPadPro (currently) fully sucks in file management - no "Pro" moniker will change that.
Just by slapping a "Pro" moniker does not turn iPad into a Professional Media Creation machine. That honor currently belongs to a Macintosh line. iPad Pro is just a top tier media consumption machine with aspirations for light media editing.
 
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Just by slapping a "Pro" moniker does not turn iPad into a Professional Media Creation machine. That honor currently belongs to a Macintosh line. iPad Pro is just a top tier media consumption machine with aspirations for light media editing.
You’re right, you don’t even have to put a Pro on it because the iPad Air is wonderful as a professional media creation machine, too. Good call!
 
Still trying to understand/justify the 16 RAM, specially considering you have to couple it with 1TB storage for a “nicer” price bump.
 
Just by slapping a "Pro" moniker does not turn iPad into a Professional Media Creation machine. That honor currently belongs to a Macintosh line. iPad Pro is just a top tier media consumption machine with aspirations for light media editing.
You are not wrong - but there are some additional use-cases.

It can serve as an overpowered note-taking engine and general paper replacement.
Since owning the 2018 iPad Pro - I have stopped carrying any paper around.
With the M1 version - I'll have an even more overpowered paper replacement.
 
You are not wrong - but there are some additional use-cases.

It can serve as an overpowered note-taking engine and general paper replacement.
Since owning the 2018 iPad Pro - I have stopped carrying any paper around.
With the M1 version - I'll have an even more overpowered paper replacement.
And, as a bonus, I no longer have to carry a brick around with me to use as a paper weight. Way to go, Apple!
 
Still trying to understand/justify the 16 RAM, specially considering you have to couple it with 1TB storage for a “nicer” price bump.
If they don‘t start putting the hardware in people’s hands how will they convince anyone to write software that uses it?
 
You are not wrong - but there are some additional use-cases.

It can serve as an overpowered note-taking engine and general paper replacement.
Since owning the 2018 iPad Pro - I have stopped carrying any paper around.
With the M1 version - I'll have an even more overpowered paper replacement.
Just curious - what software do you use for note taking? I have 12" 2018 ipad pro as well and I found good use for it - signing all those PDFs with my Apple Pencil. Quite an overkill for that, but nice!
 
If they don‘t start putting the hardware in people’s hands how will they convince anyone to write software that uses it?
They have to give iPadOS [at least in Pro machines] the ability to somehow run MacOS apps, kinda reverse process of what they did in AS MacOS machines. That’s the way to appeal to developers with a very large user base...
 
They have to give iPadOS [at least in Pro machines] the ability to somehow run MacOS apps, kinda reverse process of what they did in AS MacOS machines. That’s the way to appeal to developers with a very large user base...
Or make it worthwhile for those developers to port their apps to iPadOS. Like by making it much easier to do so.
 
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They have to give iPadOS [at least in Pro machines] the ability to somehow run MacOS apps, kinda reverse process of what they did in AS MacOS machines. That’s the way to appeal to developers with a very large user base...
The problem I see with that though is if pro mac software can run on an iPad with the mouse and keyboard, then what motivation would the developer have to make a whole other dedicated iPad touch version? Their one application is already on both devices.
 
Just curious - what software do you use for note taking? I have 12" 2018 ipad pro as well and I found good use for it - signing all those PDFs with my Apple Pencil. Quite an overkill for that, but nice!
Notability is a good one.
 
The problem I see with that though is if pro mac software can run on an iPad with the mouse and keyboard, then what motivation would the developer have to make a whole other dedicated iPad touch version? Their one application is already on both devices.
Most of them don’t offer IPadOS today, because user base isn’t sufficiently appealing. That hasn’t changed and this would adress that. On the other hand, the new M1 chip, will surely make it compelling to some apps, to offer iPadOS versions, as they will not be bottlenecked by machine performance, and will benefit greatly from touch interaction, namely those related to AR; 3D visuals; image editing; graphics design; etc. Some already offer versions but they’re are “underpowered”. M1/16GB will adress that. I suspect the real problem is Apple’s unwillingness to allow apps running in iPad, not bounded to App Store 30/15% cut policy...but there could be ways to solve that...as it is some macOS apps offer mobile/constrained versions for “free” which isn’t great, neither to Apple nor it’s user base.
 
Same app, presenting a different UI based on whether it’s docked or not.

I think your definition of ‘compromise’ revolves around the developer or Apple, instead of the user, where it belongs. To the user, being able to use the iPad as a tablet or as a desktop is a convenience.
can’t use the same app. macos and ipad have different behaviors like where to save the file and every macos app has no awareness of a rear camera.

no, that’s not my definition. i’m looking at it from both the developer and the user side. both are compromised.
 
The “where to save” is another API issue at worst and a simple “simulation” of a Mac filesystem presented to the app (to make it so the app developer doesn’t need to care or even know) at best.
 
can’t use the same app. macos and ipad have different behaviors like where to save the file and every macos app has no awareness of a rear camera.

no, that’s not my definition. i’m looking at it from both the developer and the user side. both are compromised.
Yeah, the closer you look into it, the messier the implementation gets. There are good reasons why no one has done anything like this before and the most effort I’d see Apple putting into this is allowing VM’s in some way and then the user having to build the solution, but there would be no automatic switching.
 
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The “where to save” is another API issue at worst and a simple “simulation” of a Mac filesystem presented to the app (to make it so the app developer doesn’t need to care or even know) at best.

If I'm in Procreate on iPadOS, my documents are normally saved within the sandbox of that app unless I explicitly export out to Files. In order for my Carbon Copy Cloner macOS app to backup my entire device including Procreate files, I would need to break iPadOS security rules and give that app full disk access. This essentially devolves the security down to the lowest common denominator. Same goes for screen recording apps like OBS.

Then you have macOS apps that live in the menubar but not in dock. What do you do when you want to close those apps when your iPad isn't docked? You'd have to create something new for the user to learn for the undocked experience.

And regarding your dream world of "just bundle one app with two different UIs", that's not a one click operation in Xcode. You might have a macOS UI with 10 separate windows open while docked. The app needs to figure out how to translate those 10 separate windows into a single iPadOS window when the user undocks the device.

Like I said, issues occur both on the user side and the developer side.

You're not thinking this through.
 
I feel like these comments from apple execs are more relevant after WWDC. I think its time people accepted apple will never merge them and they will always stay separate. And that’s fine.
 
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