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Apple's Greg Joswiak: Siri Wasn't Engineered to Be Trivial Pursuit
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You know exactly why we can’t replace Siri with another voice assistant.
[doublepost=1504818969][/doublepost]Interesting that none of these perspectives on Siri are positive, mine included.
I think, deep down, Apple has been, and still is, struggling to improve Siri without infringing on the patents that Google, Amazon, and Microsoft hold that make their assistants so much better.
"I had a light bulb that kept burning out in one lamp, but rather than figure out why, I simply removed all the lights in my house and used a candle."
Light I need. Siri not so much.
I just tried this on my Google home,
I followed your example to the letter and when I asked "how tall is she" is said, She is 1.8 meters tall.
I'm impressed
(by my google home)
So, Apple is really the Sirius Cybernetics Company, and Siri (hey-Siri, Sirius) is our plastic pal who's fun to be with?
Siri set an alarm for 7am.. that's about all she's good for imo.
"I had a light bulb that kept burning out in one lamp, but rather than figure out why, I simply removed all the lights in my house and used a candle."
Actually Siri in this metaphor is a light bulb that doesn’t give any light.
I think this has largely to do with pronunciation. When I asked that same question, it came back as "Who played Engign Row on Star Trek", with a response of "I don't really know". So Siri understood "Ensign" correctly in my case vs the "In sign row" as you experienced. It would be interesting to know how you pronounced it, but you're right that Google definitely handles context better, auto-correcting the query to match the context. Siri needs to do that better.
I NEVER use Siri, as it seldom understands what I am saying, and then the results are seldom relevant at all.
I have a Google Home device, and it amazes me how well it understands the words (with below caveat), and the relevance of the results. I only wish Google Home had better "ears", as I have to speak quite loudly, though.
Google Home gets context much better, carries the context throughout a "conversation" (and even later), seems to have some considerable "situational awareness", and has up-to-date results. It doesn't refer me, for example, to stores that don't exist or were closed years ago.
I have a Google Home device, and it amazes me how well it understands the words (with below caveat), and the relevance of the results. I only wish Google Home had better "ears", as I have to speak quite loudly, though.
Google Home gets context much better, carries the context throughout a "conversation" (and even later), seems to have some considerable "situational awareness", and has up-to-date results. It doesn't refer me, for example, to stores that don't exist or were closed years ago.
Sorry, Joz, I call B.S.
I wish they would have an "Apple Maps moment" and admit that Siri is subpar and say that they are committed to doing better. I don't care what Siri sounds like. Making it sound like a "trusted person" isn't important to me. I just want Siri to understand what I'm asking it to do and then follow through and do what I've asked it to do damn near 100% of the time.
More than half the time, Siri misunderstands me when I tell it to turn a light on or off. If I say, "Turn x light on" it will hear "Turn x light off" and vice-versa. Also, as I've mentioned in previous posts on MR, I can't have two rooms in my house that start with the same letter for HomeKit purposes (i.e. Family Room, Front Room) because most of the time, I'd ask Siri to turn a light off in the front room and it would alter my family room lights and vice-versa.
These examples have nothing to do with asking Siri 'Trivial Pursuit' questions. This is the stuff Siri was supposedly engineered to do and its reliability in these areas, in my experience, leaves much to be desired. And here they're aiming to make Siri sound like more of a "trusted person". Sorry, Joz, Siri is only great when I can rely on it to do what I've asked it to do. It sounds to me like Siri won't be improving much anytime soon, unfortunately.
I wish they would have an "Apple Maps moment" and admit that Siri is subpar and say that they are committed to doing better. I don't care what Siri sounds like. Making it sound like a "trusted person" isn't important to me. I just want Siri to understand what I'm asking it to do and then follow through and do what I've asked it to do damn near 100% of the time.
More than half the time, Siri misunderstands me when I tell it to turn a light on or off. If I say, "Turn x light on" it will hear "Turn x light off" and vice-versa. Also, as I've mentioned in previous posts on MR, I can't have two rooms in my house that start with the same letter for HomeKit purposes (i.e. Family Room, Front Room) because most of the time, I'd ask Siri to turn a light off in the front room and it would alter my family room lights and vice-versa.
These examples have nothing to do with asking Siri 'Trivial Pursuit' questions. This is the stuff Siri was supposedly engineered to do and its reliability in these areas, in my experience, leaves much to be desired. And here they're aiming to make Siri sound like more of a "trusted person". Sorry, Joz, Siri is only great when I can rely on it to do what I've asked it to do. It sounds to me like Siri won't be improving much anytime soon, unfortunately.
I get the same. I have the address in the meeting, I can ask for the meeting address but I cannot find a way to get navigation nor how long it will take by asking Siri. Strange since the meeting alert is based on distance and travel time. The parts are all there "where is my next meeting" (where she reads the address to me) but cannot be asked to take me there or say how long it would take. She just says we are not navigating or where would you like to go.
I would be glad if a dog barked at me in place of Siri's "natural voice" if it were 10% more intelligent than what Siri is today. The most pathetic piece of crap ever maintained by Apple.
Any chance you screenshotted this at 1:22pm?. Perhaps you need to say "tomorrow at 9am"?
The funny thing about this post is that Siri would translate my spoken voice to text just fine and then totally screw up what I expected here to do with the request. Better voice recognition won't solve all of Siris issues.
Why couldn’t you just engineer Siri to be an assistant and trivial pursuit? The more features the better.
I think the new HomePod, with its array of multi-directional microphones, will begin to change perceptions. Clearly, many people have trouble with Siri understanding them, and a new solution was needed. I peg that on the device receiving the sound. I personally don't have trouble with Siri understanding me, yet many people do have trouble, so it's not about "Siri sucking all around", but "Siri sucking for some people because of XYZ".
Actually no, his time is set to 24 hour time. It would say pm if it was 1:22 I’m the afternoon.
Apple needs to fix that.
Just asked "Suri who won the Yankees Orioles game today, the reply was
"the Yankees's did not play today--their next game is against the Rangers tomorrow"----Then I asked the score and got the same reply
The game ended about 45 Minutes ago--The Yankee's won 9 to 1
[doublepost=1504820328][/doublepost]Just asked Google home, correct answer in split second
"the Yankees's did not play today--their next game is against the Rangers tomorrow"----Then I asked the score and got the same reply
The game ended about 45 Minutes ago--The Yankee's won 9 to 1
[doublepost=1504820328][/doublepost]Just asked Google home, correct answer in split second
Wrong. No need to say ‘again’ as Siri is never great.