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Apple's Greg Joswiak: Siri Wasn't Engineered to Be Trivial Pursuit
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But it also goes to show how out of touch the execs in Apple are. They're living in their own bubble, living a lie. They simply can't accelerate Siri's growth and improve on it without opening up their walled garden. Can't be done.
Their private 'walled garden' is biting them in the ass. And they know it.
Just found another area Siri comes short. Yesterday's Yankees game was postponed and played today, but when I ask Siri for the score it hasn't updated-
I don’t know how many times this happened to me! Not too long ago on the iPod Touch 5g I was hurrying up and checking something... and I accidentally pressed the home button too long and it took literally 10 seconds to bring it up just for me to try and get rid of it
Could’ve went to the other room to get my iPad in the time.
I find the Siri voices sound way too bitchy and annoyed like oh my god sorry i bothered to ask while the google voice could read audio books to me to fall asleep at night, so calm.
Dictating messages is also a pain in the lower area bc i spent more time manually correcting errors.
At the end of the day it goes back to the main issue being that i am not much of a talker in the first place, i rather tap a few buttons to get things done
Dictating messages is also a pain in the lower area bc i spent more time manually correcting errors.
At the end of the day it goes back to the main issue being that i am not much of a talker in the first place, i rather tap a few buttons to get things done
Other-language support is a plus as long as it's equally usable and as efficient as the English language which simply isn't the case.
Sure, Siri works well when you give it one of the example instructions but try composing a text message in a non-English language and you quickly see that Siri has a very very long way to go. I use (or try the use) Siri for texting while I'm driving but most of the time I find myself repeating the message over and over because Siri misinterprets some words. I usually end up frustrated (which is a bad thing while you are driving), cancel the message and type it in myself when I park my car.
Even in the US variant of the English language (i grew up in California which lacks any infections and is very monotone, so a computer should be able to understand it the easiest), Siri still sucks! I just keep Google on my iphones homepage to get my info.
I wish Siri was better, but i gave up on it years ago.
Not liking Joswiak and such an analogy, not to mention his excuse that "someone was holding Apple back!
Apple was handed not just gold nor the ability to smelt it but an entire rich gold mine 2yrs ahead of any competition and while Apple wasted time on various voice narrators for recording Siri began to lag behind the competition in what it Should and Can do!
Apple's history in forethought of a digital AI assistant dates back over 20yrs with The Navigator concept! I still expect siri to be on par with this concept and originally thought Siri would become this in 3yrs. I was so wrong. This is the reason I don't use Siri as much as I'd like on my iPhone vs using it more on ATV4 in the last 2 days Han I have on iPhones in 4yrs since iPhone 4S!
One major gripe I have with Siri is what it lacks for on-board access when not having internet connectivity. A small localization would be nice for:
Announcing date/time, ability to create a local appointment / meetings (since recents contacts and internally cached/saved contacts are on device), launching core apps. The TTC subway here in Toronto gets packed pretty bad during rush hours, and free Wi-Fi (3rd party provided with ad sponsorship affecting how connectivity works) is horrible, and only 1 provider has 3G connectivity throughout 80% of stops.
But I doubt we'd get such a feature as it may significantly bulk up iOS footprint.
Haha, love it how English in the UK is classed as a dialect variant
Somehow I feel Jony Ive may have a word or two with Greg!
Greg Joswiak, I feel his job overlaps Schillers far to much and needlessly. I really don't think he should be making any public speeches about Siri now that it's under Frederigi's teams responsibility!
Tim internal controls required here.
Exactly! How can Siri be expected as a GTD system if it cannot do what it's supposed to do get things done ?!
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I already posted this, but I'll post it again:
Naturally screwing s*** up since 2011.
ROFLMAO!
My results - at least it understood Mail and showed me results for Canada Post (relevant to my geographical location).
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"Pissing myself so hard! You're still married right!!?
The best is if you tried to ask Siri "show me all contacts for Wife"
That would've been priceless.
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Haha, love it how English in the UK is classed as a dialect variant
Although I laughed at that too, I think they were trying to point out ( albeit cack handedly ) that Siri supports accents, it supports 9 varieties of English.
Oddly enough Siri is amazing on Watch! I don't know what apps it can interact with though.
Don't insult dogs. Each of my dogs has an IQ above most human beings that I see every day. And my dogs are certainly way more social and empathic than the average human.
I find Siri to be way better than the competition here in Sweden. I don't use it for Trivial Pursuit things, but to get things done. And I actually think Siri is quite good at it. I'm also thankful that Siri has improved every single year and not become abandonware like e.g. Reminders.app
It's a bit more hit and miss with the Black Country accent.You raise a good point, Siri seems to understand my [admittedly not that strong] South-West accent quite well, so Apple at least must have a grasp on the fact that there is no UK wide dialect of English!
Simply rubbish if you are Scottish
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It has to fix siri first.
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Yes it has improved but, Nah, still sucks
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Because Apple wants to protect its walled garden at all costs and because SIRI is crap and everyone would use an alternative.
Its sad that Apple won't allow us to use a competitor.
Google assistant beats Siri hands down. voice recognition for place names is great (we have some weird location names in australia. Kalgoorlie, wagga wagga etc.)
Thing that gets me the most is i cannot navigate to business names. One business when i read its name "*** Computers" it gives me directions to a city in NY. 9,626 mi away. Surely machine learning can tell thats not helpful.
Thing that gets me the most is i cannot navigate to business names. One business when i read its name "*** Computers" it gives me directions to a city in NY. 9,626 mi away. Surely machine learning can tell thats not helpful.
As someone that's used Android and OK Google for years, I tried Siri for about two months and the only thing I can trust Siri to do for me is give me the current temp when I ask. I will try it to use it more once the phone upgrades next week just see all these improvements everyone is talking about.
Also, even with my accent Google understands me, with Siri I have to sound as robotic as possible.
Also, even with my accent Google understands me, with Siri I have to sound as robotic as possible.
Siri wasn't engineered to do much of anything.
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Not only forget it, but to pay $350 for the HomePod which is powered by crappy Siri.
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Not only forget it, but to pay $350 for the HomePod which is powered by crappy Siri.
You missed the point. If those are disabled and the reasons why Siri can't do the calculation, it should state it. The correct answer should in one way or another address directly to what's being asked, if Siri does have any intelligence at all.
This example is quite similar to how Google auto-completes and -corrects your search queries when you simply type a search into a Google search field. This is an area where Google has many years and probably several magnitudes more of search queries of experience. It is extremely hard to catch up to that or even just to not fall further behind.
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I think the idea is that Siri helps with practical matters, and not necessarily with serving up 'mere' information. For example, where and when is a movie playing, but not who is in that movie. In essence, if I want to accomplish a certain task, then Siri can help me. If I just want answers to random questions, that's not what Siri is designed for.
A way to bridge that gap would be to enable Siri to do things like this: 'Ask IMDB what is the latest movie with XYZ'.