Apple's grudge against NVidia

faust

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I for one recognize the superiority of NVidia GPUs over AMD's offerings. Imagine a Mac Pro you could get with an Geforce RTX Titan X, 2080 Ti, or Quadro workstation cards. Imagine a MBP with a 2060 S or a 1660 Super/Ti. We would have tremendously powerful GPUs at our disposal than these AMD jokes that have become the norm since the great NVidia/Apple fallout over the constant failures from the last non-unibody MBP. I actually had to suffer through the madness that gripped our community back then. I had to take my MBP in for repairs at least 8 times before they finally relented and issued me the new unibody MBP. I just think it's time to bury the hatchet.
 
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I don’t know what kind of info you’re seeing but I’m seeing the opposite. AMDs are much better than intels buggy offerings. My Quadro card runs better on Apples default drivers on my 2010 Mac Pro vs Nvidias latest web drivers which are so bad that using them causes me to lose all transparency in the entire OS and it’s been this way for over a year.

Nvidias Quadro cards are also a joke. Many of them are literally gaming hardware with different drivers at 3x the price. Good riddance.
 

faust

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I don’t know what kind of info you’re seeing but I’m seeing the opposite. AMDs are much better than intels buggy offerings. My Quadro card runs better on Apples default drivers on my 2010 Mac Pro vs Nvidias latest web drivers which are so bad that using them causes me to lose all transparency in the entire OS and it’s been this way for over a year.

Nvidias Quadro cards are also a joke. Many of them are literally gaming hardware with different drivers at 3x the price. Good riddance.
The hardware for the Quadro workstation cards are vastly different from the NVidia GPU offerings. Not sure what Quadro card you're using, because 2010 is awhile ago, but the modern Quadro cards have totally different focuses from their gaming counterparts. If Apple is handling the video drivers for their AMD dGPUs that may make a difference, but using AMD on a gaming desktop, for example, is an exercise in torturing yourself because their drivers are woefully inadequate.
 

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The hardware for the Quadro workstation cards are vastly different from the NVidia GPU offerings. Not sure what Quadro card you're using, because 2010 is awhile ago, but the modern Quadro cards have totally different focuses from their gaming counterparts. If Apple is handling the video drivers for their AMD dGPUs that may make a difference, but using AMD on a gaming desktop, for example, is an exercise in torturing yourself because their drivers are woefully inadequate.
It is all market shares. nvidia and AMD are going to code the drivers well for windows. Well gamers using OSX or Linux is going to be buggy and slow.

No one big into gaming is going to go the OSX or Linux way they are going to have windows so nvidia and AMD don’t bother coding the drivers for it.

And nvidia and AMD and Apple don’t bother because of the market shares. They know people into gaming go with windows 10. So these drivers will be buggy and slow and not supported by nvidia and AMD.
 
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ActionableMango

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I don’t know what kind of info you’re seeing but I’m seeing the opposite. AMDs are much better than intels buggy offerings. My Quadro card runs better on Apples default drivers on my 2010 Mac Pro vs Nvidias latest web drivers which are so bad that using them causes me to lose all transparency in the entire OS and it’s been this way for over a year.
Nvidia stated that Apple no longer works with them on drivers.

When people ask for video card alternatives I think it goes without saying that the assumption is cooperation on the drivers. On a platform like Windows where both companies put real effort into the drivers and get cooperation from Microsoft, Nvidia does quite well. This was also true on MacOS back in the day, and there's no reason to think it wouldn't be true again if Apple cared.
 
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From what I’ve read AMD’s latest GPUs are in par with Nvidia. I still prefer Nvidia but the gap has shrunk quite a bit
 

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From what I’ve read AMD’s latest GPUs are in par with Nvidia. I still prefer Nvidia but the gap has shrunk quite a bit
yeah, I’m just waiting to see if the 5800-5950 series cards are gonna match what the leaks about them claim. There were some shenanigans with the recently released 5600 for the desktop space, so while I’m hopeful that everything will work out, it remains naught but a semi-credible leak at this time.

I very much so want them to ruin Nvidia’s monopoly on the high end GPU space. I’m so sick of these unreasonably expensive cards from Nvidia.
 

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Back in the day Apple used to seesaw between ATi and Nvidia, sometimes even offering both as options for the same machine. The grudge should stop, the option should at least be there, even if ATI chips are still the standard or mid tier. I wish they wouldn't use Intel graphics, but that's the cheap way out.
 

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If the rumors about Apple getting into the gaming space are even remotely true (which I doubt they are), then they would be wise to cozy back up to nVidia and/or AMD (ATI)