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I have to say, it is really frustrating to see Apple continually "chasing the puck" in regards to Apple TV content...
 
Who would ever have that the cable providers and networks wouldn't want to cut a deal that favored Apple? I mean if I owned the content and/or delivery system, why wouldn't I want Apple to take a chunk of my profits?
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Apple should buy Disney.

Hopefully that never happens.
 
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Wow. Why do you hang out here ? I just checked your post history and it seems you really have an issue with Apple. All of your post are very negative with a touch of hate towards Apple. You know there is a place for haters/Google fanboys and it is called Google+. You will fit right in with those idiots over there.

Hahahahaha you need to look further then a week mate. I don't bow down to Apple no matter what. It's normal to criticise them.
 
If apple wants more leverage, they need to purchase Time Warner INC. Now.

I sure hope that doesn't happen.
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Or it shows they listened to customers. Would you rather they have drawn a line in the sand and refused to change it? I swear, some people are never pleased.

And some always are. Go figure.
 
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TV is in a different spot than music was. The music industry needed iTunes because they were getting crushed by file sharing. TV doesn't have a problem to the same degree yet. They'd rather sit tight and maintain the status quo. Apple has to figure out how to make it worth their while.

It would be dangerous, but they possibly could go the other direction and offer way more than any of other service could afford for exclusive access to shows and hope that they can drive the other services out of business. That sounds like a version of their strategy with Spotify and pushing to increase the price per stream.
 
They don't have to. They share board members and have pretty sweet deals between them already.

Are you sure about that?? Next to last sentence: "Disney balked."

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$30 a month for customers with Apple getting $10 lol, no wonder TV/movie studios are laughing. What is Apple bringing to the table that media companies don't already have? Media companies already have places to sell and distribution channels.

This isnt like the indie app developer that has no resources for customer billing or distribution. These big studios.already have all that.
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Yet another reason content and physical distribution should be separated, with cable companies being converted into regulated public utilities.

I agree, Apple should not be allowed to run an app store and make apps that compete with other iOS devs, Apple should stick to hardware and OS.
 
I sure hope that doesn't happen.
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Why not? I hope you are not confusing TWC with Time Warner INC. (Two different companies)
Owning Time Warner INC means they would own HBO, Cinemax, Turner Broadcasting(TNT, TBS, TCM, Turner Sports etc) CNN. And lots more. That is a lot of negotiating power right there.
 
The only reason why cable still has the negotiating powers because of you guys, if you still have cable in your home I'm talking to you. I gave up my cable for almost ten years now, it's your turn to do your part. Obviously they're just milking at you big time, because you're paying for the service and watching those commercials too at the same time. I just don't know how people fall on this trap and not realizing that we're just feeding these monsters. It's time for us to make sacrifices if you want change.
 
Wow, some of the thinking on this thread...:eek:
Why doesn't Apple just buy every media company so we can all live in an Apple run utopia?


I've posted the same thought process regarding Apple buying AKAMAI via a hostile bid - $12,000,000,000 @ a 50% premium for AKAMAI shareholders - content distribution solved. Fewer $$$ wasted on useless stock buybacks.
 
So?

In the past year i have seen 12 people cut the cord on the cable company or Directv and start just using the Apple TV.

It will happen eventually. Or maybe- someone just starts a dedicated streaming channel for the Apple TV and takes over the market left by these networks.
 
Why not? I hope you are not confusing TWC with Time Warner INC. (Two different companies)
Owning Time Warner INC means they would own HBO, Cinemax, Turner Broadcasting(TNT, TBS, TCM, Turner Sports etc) CNN. And lots more. That is a lot of negotiating power right there.

Personally I think it would be bad for the industry. Very bad.
 
According to my brief research...
  • Apple has over $200 billion in cash
  • ESPN (the most valuable network) is worth $40 billion
  • CBS is worth $31 billion
  • NBC/Universal is worth $12 billion
  • ABC is worth $4 billion
Hey, Apple, just buy them all, make them sign a contract, make AppleTV great, and then you can keep the networks or sell them.

Monopoly.
 
I sure hope that doesn't happen.
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And some always are. Go figure.

You got me. /S

I have plenty of complaints about Apple, Microsoft, Google, Twitter, my neighbor, and generally everything. But let's pretend otherwise.
 
You got me. /S

I have plenty of complaints about Apple, Microsoft, Google, Twitter, my neighbor, and generally everything. But let's pretend otherwise.

I don't recall naming you in my post. Some people here are satisfied with everything in the Apple world and hope Apple controls more of it.
 
I don't recall naming you in my post. Some people here are satisfied with everything in the Apple world and hope Apple controls more of it.

Oh. I assumed it was some sort of a snappy retort in the way some people here seem to do when defending Apple any time somehow becomes "you're a fanboy".
 
There are two sides of the table. Apple may be "hard-nosed" but networks are "reluctant" to change and evolve. Which of course worked real well for newspapers and magazines to dig heels in.
You might have a point if not for services like Playstation Vue, which are exactly what Apple was going after but failed to accomplish due to the incompetence and arrogance of their execs. So now instead of getting my money, Sony is.
 
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The TV industry has seen what Apple did to the music and mobile industries (essentially grabbing all the profit) and is determined not to make the same mistake. Who can blame them?

Exactly. Apple has been trying for years to jump in but their terms are laughable.
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What's Apple's leverage?

Afaik, cable companies in the US couldn't care less about Average Joe paying LESS for their content, let alone à la carte.

Oh and let me guess, it had to be US-first, hm?
No way could you try to make a new Apple TV and services for it that wouldn't launch first in the US.

Point I'm trying to make is this: in other countries, cable companies don't have such a tight grip and you would have had a much better position for negotiating and asking for favors.

This way it's pretty much cable co's way or bust.

Mind you, I'm saying this being totally clueless about most matters regarding this, but the stranglehold cable has in the US is unmatched afaik.

Glassed Silver:mac

But dont you think Apple wants that same stranglehold? They cant get in, while others have got in, as others arent demanding stupid terms.
 
Screw all the Cue Defenders. He is an ass. SJ NEVER LET THE LEASH GET TOO LONG. It's anything goes with Timmy.

Time for Cook and Cue to exit. Time for Arthur and the BOD to get their heads out of their asses. :apple:

SJ was tough, don't you think he would go the same way, with the totally unreasonable terms?
Best to join the others in the market, cheapen the ATV4, which also can provide all or most of the content from other SVOD providers, and just make it compelling? Or am I missing something? Netflix, Hulu etc do it. Here in NZ, our own large cable provider (satellite) has released a Sky Sports app for those that cut the cable, its on ATV4 very shortly.

So we can get FTA, Sky Sports, Netflix and so on. Apple SVOD too if they startup one. Make it compelling, but if they want to just take over everything, thats dumb. Laughable
 
Why not? I hope you are not confusing TWC with Time Warner INC. (Two different companies)
Owning Time Warner INC means they would own HBO, Cinemax, Turner Broadcasting(TNT, TBS, TCM, Turner Sports etc) CNN. And lots more. That is a lot of negotiating power right there.

Do you really think that's a good thing? If complain that prices are high now, what do you think would happen if Apple owned massive amounts of content?

I'll give you a hint. The Apple Tax you pay for everything would be slapped onto entertainment. You'd trade a middle man you hate for a middle man you like- but expects industry leading profits on everything they touch.

Some of you need to think like a consumer instead of thinking what's good for Apple is good for you.
 
Oh. I assumed it was some sort of a snappy retort in the way some people here seem to do when defending Apple any time somehow becomes "you're a fanboy".

It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. It was just to show that there was also an opposite viewpoint to what you posted and there are many posts in this thread with people wanting Apple to buy a large chunk of the entertainment industry.
 
Exactly. Apple has been trying for years to jump in but their terms are laughable.
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But dont you think Apple wants that same stranglehold? They cant get in, while others have got in, as others arent demanding stupid terms.
Yupp.

Do you really think that's a good thing? If complain that prices are high now, what do you think would happen if Apple owned massive amounts of content?

I'll give you a hint. The Apple Tax you pay for everything would be slapped onto entertainment. You'd trade a middle man you hate for a middle man you like- but expects industry leading profits on everything they touch.

Some of you need to think like a consumer instead of thinking what's good for Apple is good for you.
THANK YOU.
That's exactly what you see so many people here talking about.
"pah, who cares about Samsung's sales, look at Apple's industry-leading profits!"

It's almost like every single one here is a damn stockholder and even then: wake the **** up, this ship won't sail forever like this.
Hell, even Walt Mossberg and other usually rather pro-Apple people are beginning to realize that Apple is stuck in the comfort zone of shipping the least they can get away with.
This isn't Apple excellence, it's sad stagnation.

It doesn't take a ****ing genius and it maddens me on a personal level, because when I discovered the joy Apple's tech brought to my life I quite honestly fell in love with design, conceptuality and various other things that influenced me.

To see that decay is quite frankly a personal concern to me, because whilst the competition got the memo, I just wish we could keep having an excellent Apple Inc.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
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Sound like Eddy Cue should be known as Eddy 'No' Clue.

Apple should use the Apple TV as a loss leader and either give it away free or for $49 with every Mac/iphone/ipad purchase.
Get it into the hands of 100 million or more houses.
Then they would have leverage over these cable companies.

The cable companies seem to have the worst business models. "We don't want to unbundle our channels as this 1 good channel makes it possible for use to produce and pay for rubbish shows for another 15 other channels."

What other business works like that?
If it were products for example, a company would look at their product lines and say this 1 is making most of the profit, and those 15 are tanking and costing us money. Ok lets scrap that junk and make the good one better...
 
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