I'm not referring to Amazon or Google - I'm referring to Baidu, Alibaba, and Xiaomi beating them.When Google and Amazon give their devices away or charge a nominal fee, HomePod doesn't have to be enormously profitable to reap a much higher share of profits from smart speaker sales.
Me too, but if other people don't buy them they could always get abandoned.I don't care. I love my HomePods.
Is it really that surprising that a $20-30 device can sell twice as many units as a $300 product?I'm not referring to Amazon or Google - I'm referring to Baidu, Alibaba, and Xiaomi beating them.
Not overpriced for the sheer quality of the technology and build. It's a high-end speaker with the best microphone array of them all. Just because it's not a low-cost device in a market filled with bottom-feeders doesn't mean it's overpriced itself.
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It's not just the built-in assistant that makes a device "smart". HomePod is smart in that it automatically detects the shape and size of the room, and optimizes the sound output to match... without the user having to do anything. That's smart tech.
I'm with you. I have a pair setup alongside my tv and the sound is just to my taste. My big wish is that they would make it so that when you wake your Apple TV and have the output set to your HomePods that it re-establish that connection. I haven't been able to get Siri shortcuts to do that. As I've said before, great for watching movies on long winter nights.I don't care. I love my HomePods.
Would be interesting to see their share of total smart speakers profits. I'm willing to bet they're taking home at least 20% of total smart speaker profits with only a 5% market share.
Sonos is the one company I would be happy to see Apple buy - they both deal in upscale audio, with tech/networking integration and smart assistant integration, and aim for higher-end customers who want something that JustWorks (TM). Sonos has some nice home theater speakers (no, they're not competitive against carefully chosen components, but, again, it Just Works, and it switches seamlessly from streaming music to playing movies/TV as soon as the TV presents a signal). With or without Sonos, I'd like to see Apple do a "HomePod Home Theater" (either a center channel, or a soundbar-ish HomePod).I would put Sonos above Apple in the speaker category. Hands down.
And, of course, you have to ask yourself why Google and Amazon are giving their devices away...When Google and Amazon give their devices away or charge a nominal fee, HomePod doesn't have to be enormously profitable to reap a much higher share of profits from smart speaker sales.
This is something I’m very much interested in creating as I didn’t know it could be done until I read you post. I wasn’t sure I could use 2 HomePods to connect to an AppleTV and a TV for surround sound. Can you possibly DM me to tell me how I can go about setting this up?I'm with you. I have a pair setup alongside my tv and the sound is just to my taste. My big wish is that they would make it so that when you wake your Apple TV and have the output set to your HomePods that it re-establish that connection. I haven't been able to get Siri shortcuts to do that. As I've said before, great for watching movies on long winter nights.
Edit: My other request... Have more steps in the volume control.
You've never used a HomePod.Maybe try giving value with functioning AI?
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Why?! Amazon Echo works when you talk to it. Siri does not.
Would be interesting to see their share of total smart speakers profits. I'm willing to bet they're taking home at least 20% of total smart speaker profits with only a 5% market share.
Overpriced is purely subjective.Well my friend, if that's the case, as a customer that's nothing to brag about, seems that they excel at selling overpriced stuff more than anyone else.....
I must be missing something. The forum won't let me start a DM to you. Nothing secret so I'll post for all to see. Here it goes.This is something I’m very much interested in creating as I didn’t know it could be done until I read you post. I wasn’t sure I could use 2 HomePods to connect to an AppleTV and a TV for surround sound. Can you possibly DM me to tell me how I can go about setting this up?
Perfect! Thank you so much!I must be missing something. The forum won't let me start a DM to you. Nothing secret so I'll post for all to see. Here it goes.
Here is what I did for my Apple TV and Homepods. It really is quite simple.
Step 1. Follow the Homopod installation instructions which basically consists of plugging in your first HomePod and then holding your phone close to it. Name the HomePod. Repeat for the second HomePod but this time you are given the option to make it a left or right stereo speaker in the same location or to say it is in a different room. For me, it is in the same room as the first one and I assigned it the proper left/right setting.
2. Turn on Apple TV and do either “a” or “b” here
a. Go to your AppleTV’s setting“app” and select Video and Audio > Audio Output and select your HomePodsto be the audio output. When you have two HomePods setup as a stereo pair they will show up as the room name and a pair of HomePods. Back out of the menus and enjoy. For some commercials on YouTube, the audio is still played through your tv but iTunes movies and Netflix and YouTubeaudio comes through the HomePods.
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b. Press and hold the tv icon button to the right of the muni button on your AppleTV remote. Select the Airplay option (the triangle topped with semi circles). Select the HomePod option then back out of the menu and play your movies as desired. Same caveats as above.
AppleTV remembers the selection but if you put the AppleTV to sleep, you have to wake the connection again which I do using option b above but I switch to tv output then back to the HomePod output. Often I won’t bother for YouTube videos but if I’m watching a Hollywood movie with good audio I will make the switch to the HomePods.
Note: This allows you to play the sound from your AppleTV through your HomePods but you cannot play sound originating from your tv or a DVD player, etc. through the HomePods.
The HP is not a high-end speaker. That's not a knock on the HP. That's just what is. It's priced decidedly as a lower mid-tier offering. Still too high at release for what it is imo, but neither the pricing nor the speaker are high-end. It is priced higher than most of the speakers it's being compared against.Not overpriced for the sheer quality of the technology and build. It's a high-end speaker with the best microphone array of them all. Just because it's not a low-cost device in a market filled with bottom-feeders doesn't mean it's overpriced itself.
Multiple smart speakers have acoustical awareness. It's not really the differentiation you seem to think it is. The homepod is a nice sounding speaker that was unfortunately hobbled with the lack of i/o. With proper i/o the reach of the homepod would have been much greater. Probably doubling(at least) the current market share imo considering it's still in limited release. If Apple offers another version, I'm almost certain they won't neglect the i/o.It's not just the built-in assistant that makes a device "smart". HomePod is smart in that it automatically detects the shape and size of the room, and optimizes the sound output to match... without the user having to do anything. That's smart tech.
The relevant Sonos speakers (the One and the Beam) aren't really marketed so much as "smart speakers" but rather as "whole-home speakers that can do Alexa/GoogleHome".Odd that Sonos isn’t included. Either they’re making up nearly all of “others”, they were excluded, or this data is suspect.
More like it being a completely different product?shocking.........6th? Price and Siri has nothing to do with it?