Wow! I dont understand why you take this so personally!
PS - Google is now the most valuable brand.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...akes-Apple-as-worlds-most-valuable-brand.html
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Apple's iMessage Delivery Problems Worsened by Server Glitch
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Wow! I dont understand why you take this so personally!
PS - Google is now the most valuable brand.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...akes-Apple-as-worlds-most-valuable-brand.html
Why is this even being discussed as a "problem"? Apple should just have one recommendation to people facing this issue - "Buy an iPhone". I don't understand why Apple would have to go the extra mile to help users with competitor devices. If anything this proves staying within Apples ecosystem "Just Works". Why bother about those who choose to leave it? They ought to suffer the consequences. I don't see Apple bending backwards to make life easy for Windows users.
I don't know if you are serious or not, as you imply you are an Apple loyalist, yet this is 100% Apple-bashing. Apple is committed to a quality customer experience, and moving your phone number to another phone is part of the customer experience. So you are bad-mouthing Apple by implying that they would screw their customers intentionally. All quality companies that lose customers to the competition do everything in their power to win them back, and Apple is no exception. Doing that short-sighted "we'll destroy you, loser switcher" stuff you ascribe to them would be moronic, and no serious company would even think that way.
You say this, but I've had a very hard time contacting my wife when she was out of the country recently because while she was abroad she didn't have data but all messages I was sending were instantly 'delivered' by iMessage (so quick I wasn't able to even hold down on the message for the pop-up 'Send as text message' option to appear).
What was happening was that because her iPad was still at home (somewhere) with WiFi available all my messages were being delivered there and nothing arrived on her phone abroad.
What I ended up having to do was disable WiFi, disable cellular data so the ONLY method of sending the message was by SMS. This was incredibly frustrating having to do this every time I wanted to send her a message.
While I'm technically-savvy enough to know to do this, your average joe does not. And this is between iOS devices - the same basic problem applies if you have one iOS device with iMessage enabled and are also using a non-iOS phone.
That's the big problem, it still thinks their phone number is associated with an iPhone so sends it as an iMessage instead of a text message.
After, what, almost two weeks now, how can there still be people who JUST. DON'T. UNDERSTAND. the problem AT. ALL!?
You sir, win the prize for post of the week.. I congratulate you.. you win "the internet's"..
Why is this even being discussed as a "problem"? Apple should just have one recommendation to people facing this issue - "Buy an iPhone". I don't understand why Apple would have to go the extra mile to help users with competitor devices. If anything this proves staying within Apples ecosystem "Just Works". Why bother about those who choose to leave it? They ought to suffer the consequences. I don't see Apple bending backwards to make life easy for Windows users.
They ought to suffer the consequences for Apple's own software not working properly?
This has grown as a PR issue, so Apple is going to fix it.
When it was only "a few customers" problem, Apple ignored it.
It has been a problem since iOS 5.
It's only a matter of numbers. Middle finger to customers, until news start spreading around
When it was only "a few customers" problem, Apple ignored it.
It has been a problem since iOS 5.
It's only a matter of numbers. Middle finger to customers, until news start spreading around
Actually, there's an option under messaging to disassociate iMessage with any email addresses and thus stop iMessage from sending messages to that app. I'll give you that your average user may not know how to do that, but honestly only takes a little common sense and familiarity with how iMessage works to know you'd have to do something like that. The problem is that they tried to combine SMS and iMessage, which while convenient, muddied how the process works.
I'd bet a majority of people would know that you can't send an email to a landline because they obviously use different technology and aren't compatible. Yet iMessage and SMS are a similar situation and somehow it never enters their mind to evaluate their situation and fix whatever settings they need to fix.
So let me get this straight.
You're going to give the middle finger to your ex-girlfriend you broke up with because you weren't satisfied of your relationship to sleep with your new girlfriend, and she should let you do just that?
This isn't a problem IMO. I honestly think she has all right to rule your life and decide who you can see or who can reach you.
/s (people, seriously)
When you say "most valuable company" most think of stock market cap, which is completely objective. Apple is way over Google here.
AAPL: $523 B
GOOG: $367 B
My guess is you are referring to a brand survey from some marketing company, which is 100% subjective.
Is it really Apple's responsibility to redirect our messages? I think with having an account with iCloud or the iMessage services it is the consumers responsibility to properly deactivate Apple "stuff" when switching over to a non-Apple device.
Maybe I don't know enough about it. Looking forward to what everyone thinks.
Maybe I don't know enough about it. Looking forward to what everyone thinks.
you don't know enough about it. Please read through the numerous threads already beating this subject to death. It's Apple not properly disassociating your phone number with iMessage if you decide to change to an android, windows, or blackberry phone. Even when a customer decides to make a switch and turns off iMessage first, the bug is that Apple still thinks your number belongs to iMessage when it doesn't, causing the switcher to miss text messages from other iPhone users.
I'm guessing you haven't read all 3 pages yet in this thread and missed this post by itpromike, which helps explain it as well
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19133229/
it's a lot more than that.
For example, say I have my UK sim card. I switch to a German sim card with a german number. My iphone updates and uses the german number for iMessage. You would guess that if one particular iphone switches number, apple would be smart enough to assume that the previous number was disconnected grom imessage, right?
WRONG, people write to your UK number and you won't get those. What's worse, it will say that hte mssage was actually RECEIVED.
Received by whom? GOD?
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it's a bug when it happens even when you keep your iphone but switch sim cards !!!!
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Why is this even being discussed as a "problem"? Apple should just have one recommendation to people facing this issue - "Buy an iPhone". I don't understand why Apple would have to go the extra mile to help users with competitor devices. If anything this proves staying within Apples ecosystem "Just Works". Why bother about those who choose to leave it? They ought to suffer the consequences. I don't see Apple bending backwards to make life easy for Windows users.
Once again, this problem faces also loyal apple users that for whatever reason have to swtich sim cards (i.e. when travelling).
Not a good idea to tell me that my problem is not a bug
I've had iphones since 2008.
Okay bro, send me a link to the instructions Apple has posted to resolve this issue.....
Butter it up all you want, they missed an edge case.
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And the people who do not buy in store ? Do they blame themselves ??
Does this problem affect people switching between android, windows and blackberry?? No. It's apple fault and not a sales persons responsibility
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Why is this even being discussed as a "problem"? Apple should just have one recommendation to people facing this issue - "Buy an iPhone". I don't understand why Apple would have to go the extra mile to help users with competitor devices. If anything this proves staying within Apples ecosystem "Just Works". Why bother about those who choose to leave it? They ought to suffer the consequences. I don't see Apple bending backwards to make life easy for Windows users.
Wow just wow...... So your suggesting Stockholm syndrome
wow
Problem is, messages appear as DELIVERED even though no ios device/mac computer received it !!!!
That's just saying the same thing. It's a brand survey, not market cap.
On the topic at hand though, I find it a bit nauseating to see posts saying "you shouldn't switch then" or "why should Apple even fix this?" and the like. This affects people who are still using iPhones, not just the ones who switched. Fanboyism taken wayyyyy too far.
