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Agreed, a lightning dock similar to the old dock is what I would be interested in.
 
Seriously they could have diverted all this effort to "crack" the authentication to refining their product to become an approved accessory provider.

Why would people bother buying this? If they have to bypass the authentication then something is clearly wrong with this cheap Chinese product.

But the problem with being approved is Apple would demand a pretty big city and the prices would jump quit a bit.
 
The licensing aspect of it is where I have an issue. Even $10 (the best possible price for a certified cable) is a bit steep. But if Apple is going to regulate every single cable that is not certified, that simply is bull. If you enjoy overpaying for your cables, go ahead. Similar to people who get suckered into buying $70 Monster cables from Best Buy, because the quality is so superior. Its a profit scheme.

Its a charging cable. Move the power from the wall to my iPhone. That's all.

Where do you get that $10 is "the best possible price for a certified cable"? It's the best price I have personally taken advantage of, but I tend to avoid the uber-cheap cables because I've had very bad luck with their durability.

Personally, I recognize the difference between low-cost and high-value. If I buy a $3 cable, and a $10 cable, and the $10 cable lasts 4 times as long as the $3 cable, the $10 cable was the better value, despite having the higher price. My experience with cables *under* $10 is that they don't last long enough to be worth their cost unless you absolutely need a cable *right now* when you buy it.
 
Where do you get that $10 is "the best possible price for a certified cable"? It's the best price I have personally taken advantage of, but I tend to avoid the uber-cheap cables because I've had very bad luck with their durability.

Personally, I recognize the difference between low-cost and high-value. If I buy a $3 cable, and a $10 cable, and the $10 cable lasts 4 times as long as the $3 cable, the $10 cable was the better value, despite having the higher price. My experience with cables *under* $10 is that they don't last long enough to be worth their cost unless you absolutely need a cable *right now* when you buy it.

Awesome. Thank you for the microeconomics lesson.
 
It's funny, because if you're British, you can use whatever cables you want:

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD820ZM/A/lightning-to-micro-usb-adapter

If you're americanese, you have to use the exorbitant kind.

...course, if $30 for a cable seems like a lot, $25 for one end of a cable, without the cable, is... looks like either way they're determined to get the cash out of you.


This barrel sure is comfy!
 
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Any cable can malfunction. Look at Apple's (older) MacBook chargers. It's all relative. To me, a $2 cable that does the same thing a $20 one does is a no brainer.

If people are desirous in paying more for the peace of mind, so be it.

Sure, any cable can malfunction. That still doesn't explain why you'd want to increase the odds of that happening by choosing something not guaranteed to meet any sort of quality standard.
 
Sure, any cable can malfunction. That still doesn't explain why you'd want to increase the odds of that happening by choosing something not guaranteed to meet any sort of quality standard.

Ah because I like buying lightning cables and watching my phone explode and my house burn down, since that is what will happen with all of them. Who doesn't like a little camp fire? :)
 
I for one am happy they cracked it. All of this nonsense of cables setting fire to phones is foolish ignorance of electrial engineering. Apple has built a hardware program that is cost prohibitive to independent HW engineers trying to get ideas off the ground. I've had to sign exclusive contracts and fork out thousands of dollars just to build a prototype for the iPhone. Same thing for the Android cost me about $30 to build. And, no, not everyone wants to "kickstart" their ideas.
 
so, the dialog still servers as a *warning* only ?

lol.... opps.... someone stuffed up...

Seems Apple either took something out, or didn't do it right..

This is what you get when you have a cable that has its own "smarts"...

Why does Apple try and constantly be a "smart ass" thinking they are doing good, by making lightening cables with "smarts" in ?

People are only gonna get round it anyway, and if Apple thought other-wise, (i guess they were), there their wrong...


We're not all dumb here :) some of us are smarter than Apple themselves.
 
Ah because I like buying lightning cables and watching my phone explode and my house burn down, since that is what will happen with all of them. Who doesn't like a little camp fire? :)

I guess if you were to lick an AC socket while standing outside in a storm with a lightning rod taped to your head right as you plug your cheap Chinese knock-off cable into your iPhone, that might happen.

Always makes me wonder why people put $3 cables in their $600 phone....

They're the polar opposite of people who go out and buy Monster HDMI cables because it cuts down on ambient electrical interference so they can get the clearest digital picture.

There's paying a little more for quality, and there's being an easily ripped off sucker.
 
Always makes me wonder why people put $3 cables in their $600 phone....

Opposed to $3 Taiwanese cables? Not too may ways you can screw up some wire wrapped in plastic. You are buying exactly the same cable, only difference is Apple gets an obscene cut from the sale of one.
 
What? How dare they! Apple are doing everything they can to protect customers from cheap counterfeit cables. Apple builds user satisfaction into every product. How many other companies can say that they do that? A $3 cable from China is NOT, and never will be, Designed By Apple In California. Quite frankly it is an insult to everything Steve Jobs lived and died for.
 
But the problem with being approved is Apple would demand a pretty big city and the prices would jump quit a bit.

I understand that licensing fees are likely the biggest obstacle for these suppliers who want to sell cheap to consumers. But in a lot of cases (not all) these cheap accessories cause major problems with the device at a later stage because the suppliers did not conform to Apple's strict quality assurance standards.

I mean yes both Apple and this Chinese reseller are businesses that need to make money. The difference is Apple has a brand to protect so they need to ensure that their products meet high quality standards that consumers have come to expect from their brand.

This Chinese reseller however has no brand to protect. Do you think they will care about you once something happens to your phone? Of course not, since they know it's Apple that will have to deal with these broken devices. (Like that phone that caught fire from a faulty screw from a cheap chinese repairman). Another reason why these cables are so cheap is because they likely had to bypass quality checks that any decent third party approved accessory supplier would have had to take.
 
Always makes me wonder why people put $3 cables in their $600 phone....

I keep seeing people write that, but what does one have to do with the other? I use $3 memory cards in my $2000 iMac...is that OK? The batteries in my keyboard and mouse were only 10 cents each--should I be worried? What about the "free after rebate" Ethernet cable I've got plugged between the wall and the iMac--is that going to burn my house down, too?
 
I keep seeing people write that, but what does one have to do with the other? I use $3 memory cards in my $2000 iMac...is that OK? The batteries in my keyboard and mouse were only 10 cents each--should I be worried? What about the "free after rebate" Ethernet cable I've got plugged between the wall and the iMac--is that going to burn my house down, too?

Let's be honest, both the Apple and third-party cables cost cents to make. You just get a warranty out of Apple's.

As I said in a reply later to someone else, warranty and quality control. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. It is a totally different situation to wasting money on expensive monster cables.
 
As I said in a reply later to someone else, warranty and quality control. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. It is a totally different situation to wasting money on expensive monster cables.

Who the hell keeps the receipt for a cable, let alone returns one under warranty?

And third party accessories damaging a product or causing fires etc. are a tiny minority. If they were anything other than this, then there would have been a crackdown on them, or at least lots of media attention.

The cables customers buy is entirely up to them. They make the choice to buy a $600 phone, they can choose to use a $3 cable.
 
Who the hell keeps the receipt for a cable, let alone returns one under warranty?

And third party accessories damaging a product or causing fires etc. are a tiny minority. If they were anything other than this, then there would have been a crackdown on them, or at least lots of media attention.

The cables customers buy is entirely up to them. They make the choice to buy a $600 phone, they can choose to use a $3 cable.

Oh for goodness sake, give me strength..... I am not going to explain it for the third time.....:rolleyes:
 
Update: iOS 7 beta 3, my non-apple lightning cable no longer charges

For the first time, 3rd party lightning cable gets message about not being certified and will not charge, even though it looks like it should be charging. It will sync, but will not charge.

Anyone else having this issue?

Previous to iOS 7 beta 3 (including iOS 6), I had this message if I connected the cable to phone first, then USB end to power, ...workaround was to plug in to power first, then phone, no message and it charged fine.
 
For the first time, 3rd party lightning cable gets message about not being certified and will not charge, even though it looks like it should be charging. It will sync, but will not charge.

Anyone else having this issue?

Previous to iOS 7 beta 3 (including iOS 6), I had this message if I connected the cable to phone first, then USB end to power, ...workaround was to plug in to power first, then phone, no message and it charged fine.

I just received 2 of the lightning cables in the mail. I had ordered the plain white ones but they sent me one plain white one and one of the "fabricated" ones with the fabric covering. Neither works properly. One of them is completely unresponsive when I plug it in to an Apple adapter. The other gave me an error message and stopped charging and my computer doesn't see the phone. I have emailed support. Hopefully support exists.
 
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