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I don't think this has anything to do with knowing the time of day or having a miniature smart device. This is about mobile health. A flexible wrist band, filled with sensors that can read and transmit biometric data to a nearly ubiquitous platform is a game changer. Health data enterprises are on the edge of their seats. They can't do it themselves. They're waiting for Apple and Google. I can see iWatch and gWatch launching within weeks of each other.
 
Hopefully there won't be some Chinese company claiming an existing iWatch product asking billions for the name.
 
Seems too careless for this to come out before an announcement (If there is one!)

To my mind this is protecting a name, likely to be closely associated with Apple in countries where, I hate to say, but cheap knockoffs are rife...

I'm pretty sure I've seen knockoff iWatches already in Turkey...

In terms of IP protection it's cautious as opposed to careless.
 
Lol you boys getting excited about a watch that's gonna play some musIK....(music) ...think of what all can a Apple watch do....:)

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I don't think this has anything to do with knowing the time of day or having a miniature smart device. This is about mobile health. A flexible wrist band, filled with sensors that can read and transmit biometric data to a nearly ubiquitous platform is a game changer. Health data enterprises are on the edge of their seats. They can't do it themselves. They're waiting for Apple and Google. I can see iWatch and gWatch launching within weeks of each other.

I am designing a gwatch at Google...lol !
 
Still doesnt mean they're making a watch. It could just be preventing others from using the name or part of dummy move to push competitors (copiers) into wasting time developing little turkeys. Maybe there is a watch, but it better be self charging like mechanical automatic watches, (or could they have the front covered in a new, transparent solar panel?) so it would probably only be able to support an old style reflective LCD display. Who needs another device to plug into limited USB ports or another wall wort?
 
Not many people wear a watch causally anymore as did so in past decades...

Unless some celebrities bring them back as a fashion trend, I can't see them going far...

Therefore, give me a 50 in retina display TV!!! :D
 
Not many people wear a watch causally anymore as did so in past decades...

Unless some celebrities bring them back as a fashion trend, I can't see them going far...

Therefore, give me a 50 in retina display TV!!! :D


Why, why why would they bother with the grief of supporting a huge, heavy device like a TV? Just plug in an iTV and you've got one already, plus you get FTA as well. Sure they could make a pretty, functional TV set, but it will be a support pain ita. How much bigger will the stores need to be to keep enough in stock, or will they be online only? And by retina, could that be 4K? You'd have to have good eyes and/or sit really close. I reckon 4K for consumers will be like HDDVD. Retina is great for screens you're up close and personal with. Most people (dumb consumers) seem to have this weird idea that you have to sit a certain (huge) distance from a TV screen depending on its size and at those distances it can be difficult to tell the difference between good quality SD (high data rate - 5mb or higher) and the generally very ordinary hd anyway. Besides that, if you don't match the display res to your source res, quality is compromised by conversion artifacts, hence the exact ratios used in all the iDevice displays.
 
Said every skeptic when iPad was announced. "It's just a bigger iPhone! What's the big deal?" And see how it turned out. :cool:

I think it'll be the same with iTV. Current stock of "smart TVs" are really so dumb and clunky. It's pre-iPhone smartphones vs iPhone all over again. (at least I hope it'll be. TVs are so ripe for revolution.)

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What do you do with it? Maybe you abuse it much? At one point I thought about picking it up (but passed it and decided to wait for iWatch), but then Martial Art I do (Kendo) will definitely break it hundred times over...

I agree with your point. I wasnt a skeptic about the ipad, and wont be about
any smart watch. But, while the ipad is useful, I dont think it was as important or changed the game as much as the iphone (thats just my personal view),and I dont think that the watch will - i think it maybe similar to the ipad - a more consumpsion oriented device that wont replace the iphone (or whatever it is linking to), just as the ipad didnt replace the PC/Laptop, but which will mean I have to use it less (same as PC/Laptop).

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not the kind to say, "if I don't like no else can" this will be a great accessory for some people, it will sell well, but I don't see lines as big in the Apple store like for an iPhone.

The iPhone changed the world of cell phones as we know it.
The iPad created a whole new market.

I see trouble with some people like me letting go of my regular watch, love my Nixon 51-30, people with Rolex, Tag, Bell and Ross, Patek Philippe watches it could be hard.

And to sync your run or cardio or stuff like that there are some other good alternatives available right now.

On the other hand, Apple has a unique way to market their products and they don't solve a necessity, Apple creates one, that's way people can't live without their iPads.

Yes your point on giving up current watch (or swapping when doing exercise etc) is valid - the smart watch market has to be smaller than the smart phone or tablet market because of this.
 
p/s this is where Apple's penchant for secrecy is going to come back and bite it. If Apple knew they were going to produce a watch, then they should have filed trade marks for IWATCH much earlier. Now, as I said in my earlier post under this article, there's this guy in Turkey who has filed an international trade mark covering dozens of countries. If this Turkish guy, as it appears, has gotten in first before Apple, then they're going to have to pay him tons of money to buy all those trade marks from the Turkish guy. Apple is going to pay.
 
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iSeewhatyoudidthere :D

Well...looks like...(puts on sunglasses)...we'll have to watch what happens.
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FTFY :)

I was thinking the same thing but it would be a deviation from their branding. All products are i<noun>, no?
Apple TV, Mac mini, Mac Pro, MacBook...

Since when has apple ever made a major product release that was reliant on already having another (hardware) product?
Haven't the iPod and iPhone always required an occasional connectoin to a Mac or Windows computer? Or can they be used without connecting after the initial setup?
 
This is an interesting article that says Apple won't find it easy or cheap to trademark iWatch.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/122...g-name-already-trademarked-in-us-uk-and-china

I would think the UK company that holds the trademark across Europe would maybe do a deal and the company in US that owns the trademark. But I doubt it will be cheap, especially the company that uses the name for it's product across Europe.

But it does seem like they will have trouble again in China, then again it's not like Apple has not already ignored Chinese trade marks and then been sued for stealing them :rolleyes:
 
Definitely related to a watch?

Call me daft, but could the iWatch trade mark possibly be a tv service, and or tv based product?
 
Call me daft, but could the iWatch trade mark possibly be a tv service, and or tv based product?

Others in this thread already had that idea (countless times^^) and while it would be the most brilliant deception, it would also seem very unusual for Apple to name a product with an "i" + a verb.

Hasn't happened in the past, iPod, iMac, iPhone (though that's a noun AND a verb), iPad - all are using "i" + nouns to form the product name.

If they wanted to go the "iVerb"-path in the future, wouldn't they have called iTunes Radio "iListen" instead?


As is looks like Apple is preparing to launch both a TV service and something that fits the wearable computing category, it also wouldn't make that much sense to waste the better fitting name "iWatch" for a wrist-worn smart device for a TV device/service, when they already have the brand "Apple TV" (tho "iTV" is the name of a big british tv station, to expensive to buy that name).

The "iWatch" will be much more than a watch, just like the "phone" is just an app running on the iPhone, but people need easy to understand names to understand products.

It was easier for people to grasp what an iPhone is - a phone with a computer in it - than it would have been with another name and the focus on being a portable computer with a phone in it.

That will also be true for the iWatch, people understand the concept of a watch with some additional capabilities (think calendars and there also have been watches with calculators for years^^) better than the concept of a lifelogger/notification-device with a watch as an added function.

So it will be called iWatch, because that name is easier to understand instantly than any other imaginable name.

The iWatch will be the smartwatch made by Apple.

Sure, there's the possibility that the iWatch also has something to do with future versions of the AppleTV, like a remote-"app" running on it + Siri-capabilities to control the TV.
Would be quicker and easier to reach for your wrist than to the iPad lying on the table in front of you or saying "SIRI, switch the channel to X" (which would drive me insane if i owned a Xbox One or one of the Samsung SmartTVs^^).
(Hey, what about a bundle of both, a new version of the AppleTV (the little black box, not a huge screen version), capable of running apps and the iWatch to control it, price about 400-500$?)

But the name won't be given to the TV, when it's so much better fitting for a smartwatch.
 
I agree with your point. I wasnt a skeptic about the ipad, and wont be about
any smart watch. But, while the ipad is useful, I dont think it was as important or changed the game as much as the iphone (thats just my personal view),and I dont think that the watch will - i think it maybe similar to the ipad - a more consumpsion oriented device that wont replace the iphone (or whatever it is linking to), just as the ipad didnt replace the PC/Laptop, but which will mean I have to use it less (same as PC/Laptop).


Haven't you heard? We're living in "post-PC" era! :rolleyes:

Jokes aside, I actually do think tablets like iPad will take over the laptop market over several years. I guess iPad is the case where Apple was too ahead of time that people don't see much relevance of it. Yet (I hope).
 
Haven't you heard? We're living in "post-PC" era! :rolleyes:

Jokes aside, I actually do think tablets like iPad will take over the laptop market over several years. I guess iPad is the case where Apple was too ahead of time that people don't see much relevance of it. Yet (I hope).

I think the more you use an iPad, the more you realize how useful it is.

It's great for consumption of Web, Media and Games, but gets better for creation of content every day.

Just a few days ago, I was looking for a CAD software similar to Sketchup to create basic models of buildings - And to my surprise, Autodesk released something like that last year, called FormIt.

Every day, the iPad becomes better suited to replace a laptop.



iWatch: Another reason to own an iWatch:
Went to the supermarket, using an iPhone with a shopping list app.

Realized very quickly that it sucks to carry around a phone to see what you wanted to buy.
That's a situation where you need both hands free for pushing the shopping cart around, lifting heavier stuff into the cart etc.

With an iWatch, you would have the list strapped to your wrist, no need to carry a device in your hand.
 
Three "iWatch" must haves no one talking about

Most of the speculation on "iWatch" is focussed around the obvious capabilities of iOS, the array of sensors, connectivity, innovative design, some interesting use cases around wearable computing etc. But three killer features for Apple would be:

1. Free low bandwidth cellular data for basic updates (like time)
2. Waterproof
3. On wrist charging
 
iWatch may not be a watch at all, but a service.

App Store Programs
iTunes Music
iBooks Publications
iWatch TV & Movies

With Apple making a push into TV content and most likely live TV too, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that they are working on some sort of a new platform for TV/Movies.

I just can't see Apple calling the new wrist device an iWatch, but we will see. They might not use it for anything, just a head fake, didn't they trademark iSlate before the iPad release?
 
I agree that there was a timing issue for apple getting this right (capacitive screens), but if apple did it, clearly the tech was available for anyone to do it. Apple just thought of it first, and did it right.

It also helps to be a well known consumer product company.

Others were showing off capacitive screen phone prototypes... including talking about pinch zoom... before the iPhone came out, but the press and public showed little or no interest until Apple did it.

A similar thing happened back around 2000 with the idea of an easy to use, finger friendly tablet. The public just ignored the concept. Of course, it didn't help that there was no widespread WiFi or cheap parts yet. As you said, Apple is smart enough to wait for the right moments in time.

Smartwatches already exist, they're just not that great. I think the biggest selling point for an iWatch will be the ability for full integration with your iPhone. Other companies can't support such functionality.

I dunno. I think other companies can support much more interesting integration, because they won't artificially hold back developers, like Apple likes to do with their tight-fisted control.

For example, my WIMM smartwatch had a third party app for it and my Galaxy Nexus, that remotely echoed the widgets from my phone on it.

I could use the watch to see my Moon Phase widget display from my phone, for example. It was pretty slick.
 
It also helps to be a well known consumer product company.

Others were showing off capacitive screen phone prototypes... including talking about pinch zoom... before the iPhone came out, but the press and public showed little or no interest until Apple did it.

A similar thing happened back around 2000 with the idea of an easy to use, finger friendly tablet. The public just ignored the concept. Of course, it didn't help that there was no widespread WiFi or cheap parts yet. As you said, Apple is smart enough to wait for the right moments in time.

http://www.markatescilsorgulama.net/

I dunno. I think other companies can support much more interesting integration, because they won't artificially hold back developers, like Apple likes to do with their tight-fisted control.

For example, my WIMM smartwatch had a third party app for it and my Galaxy Nexus, that remotely echoed the widgets from my phone on it.

I could use the watch to see my Moon Phase widget display from my phone, for example. It was pretty slick.

Thank you
 
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