Apple's iWork for iOS Apps Updated With Real-Time Collaboration

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They were never gone, the problem was that they were so poorly implemented that they barely worked, and worse, if you started a document in Pages 4, the formatting of the table of contents would be ruined when the document was updated to work with Pages 5. Also, if I remember correctly, the linking of the of the chapter titles to the actual pages they represented was also broken. This was one of the reasons I didn’t abandon Pages 4 until last year.

If you show me how to do pivot tables in numbers I will be in heaven. That is the only other major gripe I have had. SO, now I am thinking it was all me and not Apple

 

[NapoleonIV]

Does anyone know whether the new version of iWork for mac, which is being released on the 20th, will support El Capitan? I don’t intend to update to Sierra, but I would like to use the new pages. I noticed that the last version of iWork supports Yosemite still, but that that the new version of iWork for iOS, released today, requires iOS 10.

 

[Michael Goff]

If you show me how to do pivot tables in numbers I will be in heaven. That is the only other major gripe I have had. SO, now I am thinking it was all me and not Apple

After all this time, I would give up on Numbers ever getting Pivot Tables. Apple seems content to tell you to use Office if you need something like that.

 

[mr.bee]

Keynote - I agree
Numbers - No pivot tables is my biggest gripe (most of my accounting spreadsheets have them so I cannot move off Excel)
Pages - Missing Table of Content and Footnotes as my biggest gripes (My wife doing her Master's thesis means she is stuck with Word)

Wait toc is there in pages right? Basic, but there...

I'd say
Numbers - Pivot! yes, or something that shows up all unique values automatically, the rest I can manage
Numbers - link to databases, or let a 3rd party develop it
Numbers - find and replace only works for the entire document, not for a selection
Numbers - some basic data cleaning tool
Numbers - better print management, can't move a table in page/ print view
Pages - page setup per section. Can't even turn just one page landscape! Isn't anyone annoyed by this?

Then comes collaboration!

 

[Ultracyclist]

And now iWork's on my mac go's somewhat fubar.... When wanting to share a document it tells me i need a new version from the app store or i have to do it from iCloud.com

Hope they release the mac apps today!

 

[telecomm]

What features is it missing? I ditched Office a long time ago.

Keynote is far superior to PowerPoint. Pages and Numbers seem about par with Word and Excel - each has some features that its counterparts lacks, and none of those features are really deal-breakers.

Like others, I think the biggest omission is pivot tables in Numbers. The rest of my issues with Pages/Keynote/Numbers are probably pretty particular to my usage, but the lack of mail merge in Pages (linking, say, to a Numbers spreadsheet) is another big one, along with the lack of native support for equations.

I tried to like LibreOffice, but ran into some bugs that made things pretty unpleasant (for example, I can't believe this is still an issue after two years!). Bought a subscription to Office last year, and haven't looked back. Not everyone needs Office, but I've yet to find a feature it lacks that I've needed.

I still do academic stuff with LaTeX (TeXShop+BibDesk being indispensable for me), which according to CarlJ identifies me as being "of a certain age."

 

[RedOrchestra]

WOW ... this is interesting ... sure like to know how this works when the iOS versions don't have the same font access that OS versions do nor do they the same character / paragraph editing abilities. So what you create on the iOS version is no where near what you create on the OS version.

 

[ptram]

Numbers - No pivot tables is my biggest gripe …
Pages - Missing Table of Content and Footnotes as my biggest gripes (My wife doing her Master's thesis means she is stuck with Word)

Do you need compatibility with Excel's pivot tables, or you just need a summary of other tables' data? I find using SUMIFS or COUNTIFS in a separate table even more flexible than pivot tables.

As for Table of Content and Footnotes (or Endnotes), they are there in my copy of Pages.

Paolo
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Numbers really doesn't work as well as excel in a medium to large sized business use case.

I find Numbers very slow, and not suitable for large amount of data. It works great, however, for personal use or small businesses (that is, I guess, most of us).

Paolo

 

[2457282]

Do you need compatibility with Excel's pivot tables, or you just need a summary of other tables' data? I find using SUMIFS or COUNTIFS in a separate table even more flexible than pivot tables.

As for Table of Content and Footnotes (or Endnotes), they are there in my copy of Pages.

Yes I have been corrected on the Pages issues.

As for Numbers, I specifically need Excel's Pivot Tables. Use them a lot! Pivot tables gives you lots of flexibility to filter on the fly in a way that SUMIFS and COUNTIFS does not even come close to.

 

[mr.bee]

Do you need compatibility with Excel's pivot tables, or you just need a summary of other tables' data? I find using SUMIFS or COUNTIFS in a separate table even more flexible than pivot tables.

As for Table of Content and Footnotes (or Endnotes), they are there in my copy of Pages.

Paolo
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I find Numbers very slow, and not suitable for large amount of data. It works great, however, for personal use or small businesses (that is, I guess, most of us).

Paolo

SUMIFS and COUNTIFS are great if you know your data.
Pivot is one of the easiest ways for data exploration. "Which vendors are in my data list, which dimensions are used..." one pivot and immediately you see which and you can easily summarise per row/column.

If you really know your data structure and data means, then SUMIFS and COUNTIFS are great, more flexible and even better then pivot.


Numbers can handle 'large' amount of data if you open it as a csv file and don't start 'working' in the data but just create reports based on that date, with sumifs and countifs. If you start to do vlookups in large amount of data then you're screwed

 

[NapoleonIV]

Hey, so these updates have gone very poor reviews on the app store. Has anyone else had problems with crashing?