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What irritates me most about Siri is the advertising that portrayed Siri as an intelligent, responsive, and efficient tool. Meanwhile, unless I’m mistaken, Siri was the first Apple product to be publicly released while still labeled a beta. In other words, Apple—who has a self-proclaimed standard of deeming half-baked tech unworthy—nevertheless let their marketing group exaggerate Siri’s readiness. Obviously, Apple didn’t apply the same scrutiny to their own invention as they do to outside ones.

Makes One wonder, what other product capabilities and benefits might Apple be exaggerating?
 
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Also, imagine walking into a room and having to know the name of the voice interface.

"Hey, Siri, turn on the lights." (Nothing happens.)

"Hey, Cortana, turn on the lights." (Still nothing.)

"HEY, ANYBODY, TURN ON THE LIGHTS!"
 
This is more amusing than helpful, but I'll say it anyway.... Apple can help a tiny bit by ceasing to show people saying "Hey Siri" in their TV commercials. My phone has been activated by that phrase coming from the TV.

Not only does that NOT happen for me, but the four of us in our house each have devices with "hey Siri" enabled (i have both an iPad and a phone, myself) and they all respond correctly onto to their respective owners. In fact the system is smart enough to prioritize one device over another, so if my phone responds my iPad will just shut up and sit quietly.

For the most part I only use Hey Siri when I'm driving or when I'm working on something that has my hands dirty. I do with you could have a back-and-forth conversation with her, rather than having to say "hey siri" before each command.
 
Apple wouldn't "need" to figure out the hard stuff if they just didn't allow it in the first place.

In a noisy room for instance, "Hey Siri" would just respond with "Sorry, i cannot understand what your saying"

I guess Apple likes a challenge, rather than going on the offense.

Or maybe it could just work. In about 6 months of ownership, Alexa has failed to properly interpret a command maybe....once? And that includes plenty of usage when there's music playing in the room.
 
If the goal is who is speaking they have failed spectacularly. I have disabled hey siri on my phone as colleagues find it funny to order siri to start dialing contacts. They don't sound anything like me.
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Also, imagine walking into a room and having to know the name of the voice interface.

"Hey, Siri, turn on the lights." (Nothing happens.)

Siri doesn't always turn the lights on via my HomePod, despite confirming the request. Knowing the name doesn't help.
 
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I had to disable this trigger. I can't say 'serious' anywhere in the vicinity of my iPad Pro.

wouldn't it be great if we could pick our trigger. then you could pick something you don't kind of sort of say all the time
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Computer was always the trigger word in Star Trek.

yes but they had the AI to actually recognize voices (more or less) and set up access by location

siri is not there yet. It can't tell our voices apart, can't tell when a voice is coming from the TV etc.
 
Siri will always be bad if all it will ever be is an "on-device" AI assistant. Without deep cloud integration it will never compete well.

Apple is trying to avoid the idea they need access to some of your information available on their cloud servers in order to make Siri a good product, so they are hyping up this idea that your phone becomes a highly specialized AI neural network, which sounds great for marketing, but in reality all it means is that Siri will find and access stuff on your phone with a massive amount of excessive engineering involved.

What Apple needs to do is recognize that there is a good balance between access and aggregation of your data vs having too much private data at their disposal, but I don't think Apple will win in this market if they draw a line land bury their heads in the sand and try to put all the power on your phone instead of taping into the power of the cloud.

I do not believe that an all or nothing approach Apple assumes about accessing consumer data is a wise business decision. Apple is hiding away from the real technical challenge of finding the right balance to make Siri a competitive assistant, so they are hyping up some nonsense AI neural network ******** that will be built into iPhone which will make is suck just as bad 5+ years from now if all it can do is scrape data on your phone and find a song or picture or web link for you.

This is once again a situation where an Apple CEO sticks foot in mouth and makes a huge public claim about how Apple will never do something, and that forces the companies hand for the next decade. Tim Cook went too hard trying to make Apple the darling of consumer privacy rights groups so now Apple will never be able to compete with Google or Amazon and try to trump up some BS iPhone AI technology platform claim trying to promote more iPhone sales in the future (and an increase in their prices as well), while Google and Amazon continue to advance their platforms by fully leveraging cloud integration.

This also isolates Apple from risk, such as what Facebook is challenged by now; by never TRYING, Apple never has to worry about failing, but its companies like Facebook that trail blazes and will ultimately strengthen the market by exposing critical failures and correcting them instead of companies like Apple that hide from innovation and wait until others have failed to figure out the minimum to move forward with.

Those who can't go into PR. Apple is the king of PR. I don't need massive amounts of AI to play a song on my iPhone, I want Siri to at least match capabilities of Google and Amazon, but it will never do so being an on-device assistant.

The exact opposite. Siri seems clueless to what’s happening on-device. Its effectiveness would be increased by orders of magnitude just by indexing your device and having an effing clue what’s happened in the last 5 minutes, much less the history of your device. The obsession with cloud processing not only violates privacy, but makes Siri dumber! Mandating each request have no prior knowledge makes no sense. There’s some minor privacy benefit processing on the cloud, but it defeats the function of being an assistant. It’s like hiring a new assistant for each new request!!! That’s not even an assistant!

Prioritising what everybody else is asking for over an individual’s history is worse than arse-about, it’s infuriating and insulting. It’s the least useful use of anonymised data and example #1 of how clueless Apple really is about assistants.

Publishing at this point about trigger words is like bragging your car has 4 wheels. Embarrassingly clueless. And as tone deaf as Siri’s smart arse answers when it can’t process the simplest request.

We don’t need Apple profiling us on the cloud to improve Siri. A fraction of that processing power applied privately and securely on-device using the owner’s data would yield infinitely better results. If Siri can’t do that, then there’s something fundamentally flawed with it. But anyone who’s used Siri already knows that.

All that said, I spoke in a normal voice to my original Watch while the car stereo was playing at deafening levels and the Watch got the dictation perfect. Somebody knows what they’re doing at Apple, but they clearly aren’t anywhere near Siri. Just another example of hardware excellence and software negligence? That’s right. What Apple is doing to software is not beniegn neglect, it’s professional negligence!
 
wouldn't it be great if we could pick our trigger. then you could pick something you don't kind of sort of say all the time

I was thinking about this too. I think they did it for two reasons. First, it is much easier to design Siri to work with "Hey, Siri" in noisy environments. It is either more difficult or still impossible to design it to handle any phrase. As for the second. There are a lot of jerks. I'm sure you can imagine some of the offensive phrases people would use.
 
How about they change the name "Siri" to something else?

Like "HELLO!!! HELLO!!! HELLO!!!" :)



Man, that would be a flashback

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I was thinking about this too. I think they did it for two reasons. First, it is much easier to design Siri to work with "Hey, Siri" in noisy environments. It is either more difficult or still impossible to design it to handle any phrase. As for the second. There are a lot of jerks. I'm sure you can imagine some of the offensive phrases people would use.

Particularly after reaching total frustration with just how bad the voice recognition has become and it continues to get worse.

Hey Edsel might be more appropriate. Not quite to the hey pinto level yet (referring to cars for those who don’t get the joke).
 
Really waiting for the day when you can drop the “hey” and call Siri whatever you want. Really wanting to replace “Siri” with “Jarvis” :)
 
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Apple can post all the journals and blog entries they want. Siri sucks. (When compared to others)

As I’ve said before, they need to fire the entire team and hire new. Poach if needed. They need to JOBS THIS SOB.

Apple AcquiredvJohn Giannandrea from Google, Who was the Chief of search and artificial intelligence with in the last week. Think those improvements with Siri will be escalated.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/03/apple-hires-google-ai-chief/amp/
 
Also, imagine walking into a room and having to know the name of the voice interface.

"Hey, Siri, turn on the lights." (Nothing happens.)

"Hey, Cortana, turn on the lights." (Still nothing.)

"HEY, ANYBODY, TURN ON THE LIGHTS!"

I walk into the room and turn a light switch on. Works pretty damn well ~99.99% of time ;-)
 
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Also, imagine walking into a room and having to know the name of the voice interface.

"Hey, Siri, turn on the lights." (Nothing happens.)

"Hey, Cortana, turn on the lights." (Still nothing.)

"HEY, ANYBODY, TURN ON THE LIGHTS!"

I'm thinking that's not going to be a 'problem' Apple will have to worry about. Amazon is on the move to dominate this area. Like Apple's 'Numbers' is to spreadsheets, so will Siri be to IoT in the home.
 
Apple can post all the journals and blog entries they want. Siri sucks. (When compared to others)

As I’ve said before, they need to fire the entire team and hire new. Poach if needed. They need to JOBS THIS SOB.

Siri is completely unreliable. Apple could’ve done a much better job with this.
 
for the second. There are a lot of jerks. I'm sure you can imagine some of the offensive phrases people would use.

You can always ban certain words. Amazon has done it with Alexa. They actually only let you pick from a set of precoded terms. Which is still better than a tv ad setting off my home pod
 
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