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Apple's Lightning Digital AV Adapter is a Full-Fledged Computer
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How can they say it outputs 1080p if it doesn't?
Do you guys output video from your iPad or iPhone more often? If the former, stick with the iPad3?
Do you guys output video from your iPad or iPhone more often? If the former, stick with the iPad3?
You forgot to add -
Apple's Lightning Digital AV adapter IS NOT a computer because it requires one to function (no processor unless standalone in which case, it would be a computer). This is just following your LOGIC
P.S. The use of capital letters is a doubtful method even to convince your pals, not to mention Macrumors, where's a lot of people working in IT.
Cry me a river MR forum members. Get out more
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perhaps? You more for sure Anyone who comes to an Apple forum saying that Android is better has that urge to defend his/her purchase because they are not otherwise sure they made the right decision.
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Envy and insecurity perhaps?
perhaps? You more for sure
Anyone who comes to an Apple forum saying that Android is better has that urge to defend his/her purchase because they are not otherwise sure they made the right decision.
You're right about it being a bit of a loser of a product. But as far as why people want a cable instead of an apple TV... because it's portable. I'm not going to carry around an Apple TV with me for work or on an overseas trip. That's crazy.
Personally this is really disappointing news re the degradation of the vision. Hopefully it isn't too bad.
This is really poor engineering on Apple's part. It's extremely klutzy to have to require a full computer in a cable of all things just to have video out. Whereas all other smartphone makers either use micro hdmi ports or microusb mhl adapter cables that can be bought for $3 each and are industry standard components, Apple makes you pay $50 for their deficient design which makes your videos look worse with display artifacts.
Relax... It's a cable!
I can watch TV on my phone but it's not a TV. I can call my friend via my computer but its not a phone. I can put training wheels on my bike (hell I need 'em after a big night out), but it's not a car. The names of things are decided not just on specifications or what it's made of, but it's social functions.
And my Sinclair ZX81 had only 1 KiloByte of Ram ...
I think we reached the bottom... anyone worked on the Eniac on this board ?
If you read the article, it states that he "conjectures". You're overreacting to an opinion of someone.
Something worth considering is that the AppleTV box requires a wifi network to share with the iOS device...
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Probably not only negligible, but also probably beyond the capabilities of any downloaded and compressed movies from iTunes. In other words, just as capable as is needed.
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You should, in every case, as these things were promised in that way 15 or so years ago. Linux on everything, toasters running BSD, etc.
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Since you don't really have the details on whether or not this a "based on Airplay" system that is actually capable of more, it's kind of pointless to drag it any further.
That is cool! It is amazing how much tech they managed to put inside such a small adapter.
Shame they couldn't do the same with the iPhone!!!!!
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Still a little more than my 512Ke
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no
Yes!
Hey guys
I build an iOS app that outputs second screen content via AirPlay and external video adapters. I've been testing with the Lightening Digital AV ports and haven't seen any artifacting and it runs at 1080p. I'm not sure what the Panic folks are talking about. Maybe they forgot to switch their HDMI input when they ran the test?
One issue I did have with the HDMI adapter is that I don't seem to be able to build my project to device and debug when connected to the Lightening HDMI adapter but I can do that on the 30-pin version.
I know there are a lot of comments about this computer being overkill and expensive and yada... but it's probable an off the shelf component that's easy to flash with whatever instructions they want. So just because it's a processor with RAM does NOT necessarily make it expensive. This very well may be the most efficient way to handle this.
There are comments here that Apple should have used microUSB. As a user of an iPad mini, I can say that I love the port based on real experience like plugging and unplugging all day testing, or charging in the dark, etc. I hate microUSB. Plugging and unplugging is a pain and I've had a lot of broken cables. I think Lightening has the right idea with form factor.
My other question is... can USB 2 carry enough bandwidth to handle video? I'd wager a guess of no.. without the same technique. So yes, the lightening connector may top out at a specific configurable digital signal and have to send this data in a compressed form, but I also wager a guess that if there is something wrong with the MPEG decoding that, Apple will be able to fix it with an update.
Is Apple perfect? No. Can't say that they are (especially with changes they made to Bluetooth in iOS 6.. really making my life difficult as a developer) But I do believe they provide more quality and value for the dollar than others.
I build an iOS app that outputs second screen content via AirPlay and external video adapters. I've been testing with the Lightening Digital AV ports and haven't seen any artifacting and it runs at 1080p. I'm not sure what the Panic folks are talking about. Maybe they forgot to switch their HDMI input when they ran the test?
One issue I did have with the HDMI adapter is that I don't seem to be able to build my project to device and debug when connected to the Lightening HDMI adapter but I can do that on the 30-pin version.
I know there are a lot of comments about this computer being overkill and expensive and yada... but it's probable an off the shelf component that's easy to flash with whatever instructions they want. So just because it's a processor with RAM does NOT necessarily make it expensive. This very well may be the most efficient way to handle this.
There are comments here that Apple should have used microUSB. As a user of an iPad mini, I can say that I love the port based on real experience like plugging and unplugging all day testing, or charging in the dark, etc. I hate microUSB. Plugging and unplugging is a pain and I've had a lot of broken cables. I think Lightening has the right idea with form factor.
My other question is... can USB 2 carry enough bandwidth to handle video? I'd wager a guess of no.. without the same technique. So yes, the lightening connector may top out at a specific configurable digital signal and have to send this data in a compressed form, but I also wager a guess that if there is something wrong with the MPEG decoding that, Apple will be able to fix it with an update.
Is Apple perfect? No. Can't say that they are (especially with changes they made to Bluetooth in iOS 6.. really making my life difficult as a developer) But I do believe they provide more quality and value for the dollar than others.
That and it takes time to setup. It's fine if your presentations routinely take place in the same room, in which case you just need to set it up once and leave it there. Also, if the router is not powerful enough, it may not be able to adequately mirror your iPad.
With an adaptor, you simply plug it in and it (should) work, which is easier and saves time.
Apple consistently shows forward thinking
I have read some uninformed commentary, but seriously this just takes the cake.
HDMI is the past. Once upon a time we had to connect devices to screens via cumbersome and annoying cables that had limitations like the physical connector used, cable length, and the silicon to output a signal for a device that has so many anachronistic choices it'll make your head spin. Cableless AV technology is where this is all headed, and lightning is just the beginning of Apple's latest migration away from old technology paradigms.
Outputting AV from an iPad or iPhone is a special case. Most people are not displaying video from an iPad or iPhone. In the places where I do demos of software we use Airplay Mirroring and an Apple TV which is a much saner choice for the platform.
Apple has spoken, Airplay is the main way to output audio and video to your devices, for those (few) people that have special needs they provide an adapter. Now, if there are issues with video quality on the adapter, it could be a legitimate gripe, but we need some actual data.
I have read some uninformed commentary, but seriously this just takes the cake.
HDMI is the past. Once upon a time we had to connect devices to screens via cumbersome and annoying cables that had limitations like the physical connector used, cable length, and the silicon to output a signal for a device that has so many anachronistic choices it'll make your head spin. Cableless AV technology is where this is all headed, and lightning is just the beginning of Apple's latest migration away from old technology paradigms.
Outputting AV from an iPad or iPhone is a special case. Most people are not displaying video from an iPad or iPhone. In the places where I do demos of software we use Airplay Mirroring and an Apple TV which is a much saner choice for the platform.
Apple has spoken, Airplay is the main way to output audio and video to your devices, for those (few) people that have special needs they provide an adapter. Now, if there are issues with video quality on the adapter, it could be a legitimate gripe, but we need some actual data.
I do not understand the point in this article. The use of the ARM chip is simple it is more flexible than discrete or programmable logic chips.
In the past such an adaptor would have been 100's times the size in discrete logic (74xxx logic), smaller with programmable array logic (PAL and GALs), smaller still with field programmable logic (FPGA), then even smaller with a CPU. It is the natural progression of digital circuits nothing else.
In the past such an adaptor would have been 100's times the size in discrete logic (74xxx logic), smaller with programmable array logic (PAL and GALs), smaller still with field programmable logic (FPGA), then even smaller with a CPU. It is the natural progression of digital circuits nothing else.
So I go to a friends house and want to watch a video from my ipad I have to first check they have Apple TV, if not I have to unplug mine from the back of my setup, take it round and setup it all up instead of just taking a RELIABLE cable.
Lightning seems to me like a massive backward step by Apple if they wanted to do everything wirelessly then they should have just used micro USB!
Still a special case
The lag in Airplays current implementation is problematic in this case, but so is a 10m long HDMI cable to play on your TV screen. They could build a product around a specific kind of game where we play on the big screen using the device as a controller, but what do we sacrifice in the process?
There is one commonality across Apple products today, it is the march to reduce the number of connectors on all devices to one, power/serial bus.
The lag in Airplays current implementation is problematic in this case, but so is a 10m long HDMI cable to play on your TV screen. They could build a product around a specific kind of game where we play on the big screen using the device as a controller, but what do we sacrifice in the process?
There is one commonality across Apple products today, it is the march to reduce the number of connectors on all devices to one, power/serial bus.
The same amount of RAM in the Original iPad. Looks like the 30pin connector is a true classic now.