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I can now begin to wait for the cheap Chinese knock-offs.

I was debating getting one of these about a week ago from ledshoppe ($5.99, in stock, supposedly!) Doesn't look fake, so could be a reject or something...
 
So how are people planning on using the (non-cable) adapter with docks? Maybe I'm over-estimating the size, but it looks like it would raise the phone above most support backplates, no? I wouldn't really want my phone supported by nothing but the connector.

Unless I hack together a little back extender (shouldn't be too hard since the new phone is thinner), I'm considering just waiting until third-parties make ones with casings that have built-in support.

Or am I completely wrong about the fit in current docks?

You are right!

But, this is about a big a problem as my wife purchasing a new set of bowls that don't match everything else we own, or buying a new car and complaining that my old set of rims won't fit, or my floppy disks can't be used in my iMac, or my DVDs don't fit in my MacBook, etc. You will always have minor inconveniences when you upgrade anything.
 
This.

Whatever happened to letting the market decide? If people don't like the way Apple gouges us, they are free to use a competitors products.

The fact the EU is micro-managing businesses like this that are not monopolies is stunning.

Whatever happened to letting the people decide ? If Apple don't like the way the people in the EU rule their countries, they are free to try and sell their products elsewhere.
 
Apple probably made the adapters expensive so people would upgrade their old docks instead of buying cheap adapters for all of their old stuff. lets face it if an adapter was 5 dollars everyone in here would buy one for all their old cables and never upgrade to lightning.
 
Will it blend?

Also, I will not be satisfied until I see extensive drop and scratch tests.
 
Apple probably made the adapters expensive so people would upgrade their old docks instead of buying cheap adapters for all of their old stuff. lets face it if an adapter was 5 dollars everyone in here would buy one for all their old cables and never upgrade to lightning.

Eh? But the only reason to buy the adapter (even at $5) would be because you've already "upgraded to lightning" by buying a new iPhone or iPod or whatever. And Apple isn't even selling a dock to upgrade to.
 
I will buy one because toyota uses a proprietary to 30pin cable in order to charge/control my idevice in the car.
 
I expect we will see the new connector on the 7 in iPad when it comes out...like the iphone5, its probably what allows the mini-ipad to be as thin and small as it will probably turn out to be
 
For al the price complainers
This adapter contains a chip... so the 30 dollars is more than worth it...
It's not just a simpel rewiring box.

Yeah I am sure it's a state-of-the-art FPGA with 512MB RAM and an USB3 port!

Apple won't pay more than 1$ per chip.
It's a giant ripoff as always with Apple cables, SSDs, RAM and such forth.

But an easy way to lock out aftermarket-cables like from dx.com
 
I expect we will see the new connector on the 7 in iPad when it comes out...like the iphone5, its probably what allows the mini-ipad to be as thin and small as it will probably turn out to be

You'll see it on any of Apple's portable devices now, it's the new standard dock connector.
 
Yeah I am sure it's a state-of-the-art FPGA with 512MB RAM and an USB3 port!

Apple won't pay more than 1$ per chip.
It's a giant ripoff as always with Apple cables, SSDs, RAM and such forth.

But an easy way to lock out aftermarket-cables like from dx.com

The chips are less than a dollar and yet also an easy way to 'lock out' the third party market? Conspiracy theorists are usually better at keeping their stories straight ;)
 
Yeah I am sure it's a state-of-the-art FPGA with 512MB RAM and an USB3 port!

Apple won't pay more than 1$ per chip.
It's a giant ripoff as always with Apple cables, SSDs, RAM and such forth.

But an easy way to lock out aftermarket-cables like from dx.com



Oww come are you guys morons... This is the fifth reaction like this.

YOU NEED TO DEVELOP IT BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE IT!! <------
this cost money... you know, like paying for developers and testing and prototypes and patents.

Please... keep it real guys. It's not like USB where you buy a License and you get a description on how to build it. Apple had to develop it from scratch.. This could have taken years...
 
My understanding is the lightning cable has a chip so that it can identify its intended purpose on the fly and redirect data or current to the right pins.

In my simplistic and uneducated view if you only wanted a cable to charge, then why wouldn't it work to have a pinned-out cable with lightning end on it that was pre-wired to only supply power and that is the only use for it and the cost is less?
 
Seeing how much money Apple makes on every iPhone, I wish they would have included this with every iPhone 5. Having only 1 cable for a phone, and about 7 of the old cables, is horrible. And having to wait 1-2 weeks for a second, is bizarre. I just wish they cared about the consumer a little bit more, and less about how much money they pocket. But, ha, that'll never happen. haha.

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My understanding is the lightning cable has a chip so that it can identify its intended purpose on the fly and redirect data or current to the right pins.

In my simplistic and uneducated view if you only wanted a cable to charge, then why wouldn't it work to have a pinned-out cable with lightning end on it that was pre-wired to only supply power and that is the only use for it and the cost is less?

Then what would happen when you needed to sync to your computer? lol Now you have to carry two cables just for the job of 1.

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Apple should be ashamed of those prices.

Well said.
 
Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a female 30 pin to male USB cable and a dual female USB adapter to bridge? I think it's like 7 bucks...

you could...but...all your songs would play backwards and your photos would look like they are in a mirror:eek:
 
The most amazing thing with this new cable, is the lack of thunderbolt support. It seems like apple is abandoning its own creation.

Apple didn't abandon Firewire when it was dropped from the iPod back in 2001ish (date is probably wrong. Can't really remember).
 
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