I would MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have better car safety then a lighter car! Their is no available materials to make cars lighter currently, and carbon fibre isn't about to enter mass production! No idea what you are on about with motorcycles, the majority I see ride like total ***** and seem to think they abide by a totally different set of laws to car drivers. Are you suggesting car divers wear safety leathers and helmets and gloves?
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Apple's Lisa Jackson Joins Federal Committee Advising on Vehicle Automation
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I would MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have better car safety then a lighter car! Their is no available materials to make cars lighter currently, and carbon fibre isn't about to enter mass production! No idea what you are on about with motorcycles, the majority I see ride like total ***** and seem to think they abide by a totally different set of laws to car drivers. Are you suggesting car divers wear safety leathers and helmets and gloves?
You ask too much (and give too little)
Bacilli are everywhere and resident...
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Huh… so Apple appoints THE Lisa Jackson that resigned from the EPA in disgrace ahead of a congressional inquiry (and likely impeachment) over her illegal use of non-governmental email accounts to coordinate with outside lobbying groups (thwarting FOIA and flagrantly violating government transparency laws) BACK to a governmental committee? SERIOUSLY?
I'm an independent; neither a Dem nor a Repub. But wow, I'm starting to really understand where the anger comes from. This lady came up under Jon Corizine in New Jersey, a crook through and through (which, until I just peeked at her Wikipedia page, I did not know)… really explains a lot. I thought she was a bad pick for Apple when they hired her, given her shady moves at the EPA (it was obviously a political hire with a capital 'D'); now I'm even more convinced no one running the show in Cupertino really has a clue. All a bunch of dumb tribalists. Drain the swamp? Nah, BTFSTTG.
(And please, don't argue with me about this. There is ALWAYS some moron who does. We --have-- the emails, she got CAUGHT red-handed. ILLEGAL, understand that? And if you don't think it is a big deal that the folks running the government that control your lives feel it fine to lie, cheat, and dodge your oversight rights, then you're more the problem than they are. This woman was only a few steps ahead of federal charges that -would- have put her in jail; that Apple found it smart to put her BACK in a position working with government is beyond ethically questionable.)
I'm an independent; neither a Dem nor a Repub. But wow, I'm starting to really understand where the anger comes from. This lady came up under Jon Corizine in New Jersey, a crook through and through (which, until I just peeked at her Wikipedia page, I did not know)… really explains a lot. I thought she was a bad pick for Apple when they hired her, given her shady moves at the EPA (it was obviously a political hire with a capital 'D'); now I'm even more convinced no one running the show in Cupertino really has a clue. All a bunch of dumb tribalists. Drain the swamp? Nah, BTFSTTG.
(And please, don't argue with me about this. There is ALWAYS some moron who does. We --have-- the emails, she got CAUGHT red-handed. ILLEGAL, understand that? And if you don't think it is a big deal that the folks running the government that control your lives feel it fine to lie, cheat, and dodge your oversight rights, then you're more the problem than they are. This woman was only a few steps ahead of federal charges that -would- have put her in jail; that Apple found it smart to put her BACK in a position working with government is beyond ethically questionable.)
Am I the only one who thinks that autonomous cars are a bad idea. Are we going to have to reboot the car once in a while to install updates? The consequences of software bugs are huge. I can just see an update like this:
"Update 3.5.1 fixes a bug in which the windshield wipers would come on instead of the brakes being applied in an emergency situation."
"Update 3.5.1 fixes a bug in which the windshield wipers would come on instead of the brakes being applied in an emergency situation."
Bad idea or not - it has become inevitable technology push: so many interests at stake that the industry will develop anyway - in a controlled or uncontrolled manner.
Your example is both funny and illustrative enough when considering who should be involved and who shouldn't (as of yet)
but...let's credit "the original":
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Sorry, I have nothing to give.
I was genuinely curious about your claims in Post #21, as Apple has not released any information about their auto projects.
I was simply trying to understand if you might be an Apple employee with relevant inside information, or were just another internet keyboard warrior making stuff up.
Thanks...
Ok ... I love patriotism, I really do because of the focus of unity it brings to acheive a common goal. The U.S.A. kills it in this regard bar none.
BUT ...
like seriously ... the damn car does NOT care where you where born WHO you are, your heritage, past nor which country you claim as your own nor live in. A manual or automated or autonomous care can be used/purchased or rented by ANYONE in the USA (Citizen, Visa worker etc) ... but SAFETY in/out of a car is the right of EVERYONE! This is where patriotism doesn't apply and is a bit mindless.
Yet the expertise of American's in creating standards, innovating for safety ... THAT I agree with. Maybe I'm reading this out of context??
BUT ...
like seriously ... the damn car does NOT care where you where born WHO you are, your heritage, past nor which country you claim as your own nor live in. A manual or automated or autonomous care can be used/purchased or rented by ANYONE in the USA (Citizen, Visa worker etc) ... but SAFETY in/out of a car is the right of EVERYONE! This is where patriotism doesn't apply and is a bit mindless.
Yet the expertise of American's in creating standards, innovating for safety ... THAT I agree with. Maybe I'm reading this out of context??
How could this committee possibly ever generate anything useful at all, without including the real leader in the field (Google) ?!
Yes, the revolving door swings around again. It is all about access and influence by the big money.
As the consumer advocacy group Consumer Watchdog ably noted, more than half of the committee is comprised of parties with vested interests in getting these vehicles on the road asap, but "not a single consumer, citizen or auto safety survivor’s group sits on this industry-dominated panel", putting the public's safety and best interest at risk. The article below provides a compelling case.
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/new...s-ceo-barra-first-firing-remove-her-dot-panel
How many of these people know anything about ISO26262 or ASIL A/B/C/D?
I can look and guess that only the following would have a clue.
6. Douglas Chey- Hyperloop One, Senior Vice President of Systems Development
9. Mary “Missy” Cummings- Duke University, Director, Humans and Autonomy Lab, Pratt School of Engineering
11. Mary Gustanski- Delphi Automotive, Vice President of Engineering & Program Management
21. Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger- Safety Reliability Methods, Inc., Founder and CEO
The rest of these people should let those that have knowledge of industry standards do the job.
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BMW uses extensive carbon fibre in it's 7 series cars.
Yeap, carbon fibre core, but it's hardly a car produced in the same numbers as a Ford Fiesta and costs from £64,000 in the UK.
You're really talking out of your rump there Bud unless your breaking your NDA by talking trash; and you seemingly have no clue about Apple's history and Job too.
is this the same lisa jackson that used fake names to avoid freedom of information act requests?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/2/newly-released-emails-show-epa-directors-extensive/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/2/newly-released-emails-show-epa-directors-extensive/
Peculiar, an NDA that guarantees authenticity. Have one !
Privileged to talk from my own rump, yours seems to have dried up (...)
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Failure? What failure? Anyone involved in product development knows that tons of ideas are evaluated and dabbled in before they're put aside or trashed. It wasn't a 'project', it was a potential product evaluation. I'm sure they have hundreds of ideas they're spending fortunes on for evaluation. What do you think the many thousands of Apple employees do all day? Just look at the size of the new R&D facility. They have thousands of people looking into new product ideas, far far more than this one that was leaked to the media.but but but Apple's car project is a failure and they're losing people and they can't compete...
Apple has very little expertise in the area of autonomous vehicles to offer. The intent, therefore, is to spy on other experts in the field. Makes sense that Tesla opted out since they have much more intellectual property to lose than gain. Last thing we need is for Apple to steal knowledge from domestic companies and off-shore manufacturing and jobs.
Totally ineffectual and meaningless as no-one for Tesla, the leaders in car autonomy, are present on this panel.