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The excerpt above is a small fraction of Swisher's article. She mentions how Jobs called the shots of how the company's PR should be carried out, and that Cotton was hired to execute Jobs' vision. The comment about Osborne was correct: companies don't often reach the top by being nice.

My favorite comment from Swisher's full article:

Not impressed anyway with Cotton’s work? Still all foot-stomping pissed off because you did not get any PR love from her? Grow up.
 
I wouldn't call that a touching farewell piece? Basically they painted her as a hardcore press manipulating sales person.

Anyway this is another rat leaving Cooks ship, let's hope the replacement gets Apple, or that Cook doesn't decide to change the formula.

Katie Cotton is a rat?
 
Kara's "Touching Farewell Piece" sounds like pointless name dropping to me. "Look at all these people I know!"

I never did like her, especially when she was interviewing Jobs for All Things D.

Yes! Always, she name drops. Also, she really is annoying and doesn't know a lot about tech.
 
Where is Apple's blog, where it responds politely and professionally to inaccurate media reports using such an avalanche of well documented facts, ideally confirmed by independent third parties, that the sloppy journalist is revealed to be a bozo with little credibility?

Apple can be aggressive in the sense of creating a well funded team to identify each inaccurate media report and respond to it thoroughly. This can be done in a professional manner without Apple developing a reputation for being aggressive in the negative sense.

As example, MacRumors is a leading Apple forum. Posters such as myself often take Apple to task on various subjects, just as I'm doing here.

A single modestly paid English major type employee at Apple could be assigned to monitor this forum and respond to some of the challenges, presenting Apple's point of view.

If the challenger gets wound up and somewhat hysterical as often happens, and the poster from Apple remains calm and professional, Apple is probably going to win that thread.

As others observe the challenger being defeated by well presented facts, they will become more careful about their own challenges, and the dialog environment is enhanced.

I should add that I often make many of the same mistakes Apple makes. Sometimes I have a valid point, but I get too hard charging and ruthless about it, which alienates readers and makes it harder or impossible for me to build a coalition in favor of my position.

Steve Jobs used to needlessly alienate people. I do it too. So does Apple. The medical term for this is Persistent Nerd Syndrome.

Dude please get a life! Seriously you are getting way too deep into this Apple stuff.
In the end it's just a profit making company and life has more important things to offer to you..
 
Yes, and as we all know, Apple has been so weak and unsuccessful over the years. I think we can all agree that their PR strategy failed dramatically.

/s

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My god, you're right...imagine how successful Apple might have been over the past 20 years if only you had been managing their PR.

This. Nailed it. Sounds like the critics are mostly reporters who weren't having their egos stroked...
 
Dude please get a life!

So let's see. I'm here on the forum, and you're here on the forum, and hmmm, what else am I missing? :)

Seriously you are getting way too deep into this Apple stuff.

I get way too deep in to most of the stuff that interests me. I doubt you'll be the one to fix it, but thanks for trying.

In the end it's just a profit making company ....

Respectfully, no, no and no. It is a profit making company of course, but that's not all it is. I could explain further, but then I'd have to spam you with thoughtfulness, and that would be so very wrong. Until then, I suggest you dig a bit deeper in to Steve Jobs.

and life has more important things to offer to you..

Your point is taken. Given your sincere interest in my personal situation I should report that I am also a major big time nature nut and you'd usually find me way out in the woods. However, it is now just a few hours short of June here in the so very sunny subtropics of Florida, and there are more mosquitos than molecules in the woods at the moment, so here I am, having no life with you.

Ok, it's official, this thread is now all about me. Thanks for getting us finally on track!! :) Readers should send all snotty hate mail to:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19166423#post19166423
 
****** values. Ultimately nothing is more important than making friends.

Hard-driving is not the same thing as being an *******.

Business is akin to war. Apple is a business. People are not there to make friends. They're there to make money. And you cannot please everybody.

Positive motivation can work on some people, but negative motivation works on everybody. It's the way the military, and corporations in demanding fields weed out "the weak". It is uncomfortable, but effective.

Granted, all-negative motivation does not work. You need both the carrot and the stick, not one or the other.

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I would argue in turn that human relations are human relations, and that the particular business one is in has little to do with it.

Please understand that I say the following as a perl programming and philosophy nerd with significantly underdeveloped social skills, well documented across the forum....

I've always felt that Apple's corporate personality reflects the strengths and weaknesses of Steve Job's personality to an amazing degree. It's remarkable how much influence a single charismatic person can have.

Jobs was obviously a brilliant highly articulate visionary with an incredible passion and talent for product development, but he could also be a first class jerk who even turned his back on his own first born child.

Jobs was a nerd. I'm a nerd. Apple is a nerd. Nerds can be brilliant at many things, but dealing with people is generally not considered to be one of those things. And there's no fancy code one can write to fix it.


So, in sum then, nobody's perfect.

Sacrifice is often necessary on the road to greatness, success and vision accomplishment. There is always a cost; usually in the interpersonal relationship realm.
 
Business is akin to war. Apple is a business. People are not there to make friends. They're there to make money. And you cannot please everybody.

I'm sincerely not saying this to be snotty or argumentative, nor is this directed at anybody in particular, but seriously guys...

This forum, Mac forums in general, appear to be in need of a refresher course on the mind of Steve Jobs. Netflix has a number of good shows about him, including an excellent interview where he explains himself in his own words.

As example, in that interview Jobs said that was worth one million by 23, ten million by 24, and 100 million by 25. But he never cashed in any of the stock, or thought about the money much, because that's NOT what it was about for him. His words, not mine.

There's more to Apple than profits and gadget consumerism.

Sacrifice is often necessary on the road to greatness, success and vision accomplishment.

Turning one's back on one's first born child is not greatness. And in speaking this way of the deceased, I'm acting rather like Jobs might, socially clueless, Persistent Nerd Syndrome. That's part of Apple too. It's not smart when I do it, when Jobs did it, or when Apple does it.
 
It's also idiot public relations. Secrecy does not built trust, and a hard charging in your face attitude does not make friends. Both are a sign of weakness, not strength.

We are talking business here not politics. Given that, I can't disagree more with your comment all you have to do is looks at Google, Amazon, MS.., for example of companies that WAY over share to a point where announcements are ho-hum.

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I would argue in turn that human relations are human relations, and that the particular business one is in has little to do with it.

This is PR not HR. This is what makes your view off base and, to put it simply, wrong.
 
PR played a key role at Apple, which is considered in many polls to be the 'most admired' company in the world.

Niggling comments about how she handled her job don't amount to much in that context.
 
PR played a key role at Apple, which is considered in many polls to be the 'most admired' company in the world.

Yes, Apple has brilliantly sold us the story that everyone most wants to hear, that we are the special people, the savvy smart sexy super nerds, the creative artists, the cool kids.

And when it starts to dawn on us that this story isn't actually true, and it's really just a bunch of clever ego pandering to get our bucks, then we'll see how good Apple is at PR.
 
Bravo.

Sad to see her go.

Saddening that she's leaving. I kinda liked her. Despite her not being the most seen face at the company (to the public).

Question for you guys; are you really sad to see her go? She never developed a product for Apple and, strangely enough, as the head of PR, was rarely in the public eye. She may have done a good job, scurrying around behind the scenes trying to clean up Steve Jobs's PR messes, but why else would you be saddened by her departure? Did you guys have any semblance of a relationship with her or even meet her?

That said, with Jobs at the helm and with the products they were producing, Apple could've installed a monkey as the head of their PR and would've ended up just as well.
 
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Interesting. Did you happen to read the last paragraph of the article? If so, I'm wondering if this line applies in this instance as well:

Nonsense. That's just sexist feminist BS. People on thes forums comment negatively on Carl icahns photos and Tim Cooks photos all the time.

Comments like that last one are really only there to make anyone that criticises her look sexist.

It's a bad photo and she looks bad in it. Given that she was the head of PR you'd think there would be a higher level of control over exactly these types of things.
 
Because that's what it is. A broken smile.

A view from a non-American: I am not her dentist, I don't need to see all her teeth. This is no smile, not even a fake one. For me it communicates only aggression. If I come closer she will bite me.

I don't understand why she uses such a bad photo of her.
 
I find my wife entirely attractive, but the moment you aim a camera at her, her natural spontaneity, that which makes her beautiful, is destroyed by her desire to control the resulting image.However, if you sneak up on her you can get a great shot, because then her internal PR machine is caught unaware.

Perhaps the photo being discussed does a poor job of rendering an attractive woman because that woman has spent too many years in the process of manufacturing images for public consumption. It looks to me that she is just trying too hard.

Perhaps both she and Apple would both be more attractive with a less is more strategy of just being themselves with sincerity, conviction, and great enthusiasm, warts and all. People tend to find the authentic truth quite attractive.
 
That's low, yo. Don't do personal attacks. We all have our bad moments. Let's keep it classy. ;)

She looks like she's either constipated or she wants to eat me. If you think that's a personal attack I hope she eats you first :eek:
 
Working for 18 years at Apple is a cap feather that most people will never acquire.

Working in any Fortune 50 company for 18 years stretching from 1996 to now, double ditto.

As for today, landing a job at all is a big deal, and growing it for more than a decade might seem pretty unlikely to anyone who’s snagged a competitive job in the past ten years.

If you don’t understand at least that much about the world of business, then whether you’ve ever met Katie Cotton personally or professionally, you must be barely old enough to get your working papers. Of course in that circumstance your assessment of anyone’s qualifications for and performance of public relations management at Apple is enormously valuable, big maybe.

Katie Cotton worked at Apple for a long time, and now she has left. Her well wishers are doubtless many, her ill-wishers probably also many. I’m sure she knows how to sort them out and how much space to rent to any of them in her head. :D
 
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