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It will have a retina screen. The manufacturing process is already matured to profitability.
 
I predict with 100% that

* when Apple releases new phones, we will know what is included, what they look like and how much they cost

* within days of that happening, photos of the disassembled phones will be posted on the Internet

* people will complain that Apple is not innovative

* photos of Chinese cases for the iPhone 6 tear-drop phone will appear on the Internet

Can we move on now?
 
Really?

Back pedal!!!!

Mr Jobs at the launch of iPad 2 'We tested screens and the most optimum size was 10", let them make a 7", who wants that?'

.... Oooo iPad Mini has been launched!

And his team spent a lot of time trying to convince him with facts. And finally convinced him. What do you call a person who can change his opinion based on facts and information? Isn't that what we want in a leader?

Mr Jobs: Android too fragmented, budget phones pfft

... Budget iPhone!!!! (will someone tell me how they can run iOS6 on this if they can't run it on the iPad 1? ... And if they can't then isn't this fragmentation?)

Was it the case the iPad 1 didn't have enough resources (256M Ram as opposed to 512M or more in other iPads)?

Love someone who questions and has left the realm of the scammed

In your world, an iPad 1 with iOS 4 that got a number of timely upgrades to iOS 5, as well as ongoing security updates to iOS5, is a scam.

But buying any of those Android tablets, that then either do not see any updates, or have to wait months a years for maybe one update (how many Android v2 or v3 tablets can be upgraded to Android v4?) is perfectly fine? :confused::confused:

What are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Utter nonsense.
Apple is committed to Retina Display so much, they're telling everybody it's one of the reason people love the iPhone.
Why dilute such a perception?
Unfortunately the clients of these analysts don't know a thing about this kind of things and they're probably fine with ******** like that being spread with the only purpose for the analyst to justify his paycheck somehow.
"HEY LOOK, I MAKE ANALYSES!!"
 
If a new phone were to come out this June/July, then, that is when iOS 7 would come out as well. With that in mind, we technically only have 3-3.5 months till then. Apple has always announced a new OS about three months in advance of the release. We only have a week left in March and still no invitations. I am starting to doubt all these analyses.
 
No chance of this happening. If they use a cheaper display it will be a retina but with a cheaper panel just like the iPod touch used a cheaper non ips panel when it got retina
 
Apple should spend their time, and energy on making the current iPhone better. Instead of wasting their time making a cheaper one.
 
Don't do it!

Seriously Apple, don't do this. It's only going to hurt your image/brand. Instead, focus on making the iPhone phenomenal. Keeping ahead of your competitors will keep people buying the iPhone. Making a cheaper iPhone with a shi77y user experience will be detrimental.

I really hope this is just rumor, and nothing more - or that it was thought about and and subsequently voted no.
 
No way....

The cheaper iPhone will have a retina display - and I'd bet that the new iPhone 5S and on will have higher quality displays (and higher ppi) in the future.
 
This would be horrible. Apple doesn't need to cheapen it's brand this way. Steve never wanted a crap product and non retina display in 2013 is no longer acceptable.

The iPhone 4 is free now, how can you get cheaper than that unless you are talking about buying a phone off of a contract. In a situation like that someone still in a 2 year contract has at least an iPhone 4 with retina display, if you have a 3GS no are no longer in a contract (or soon won't be) a non-retina device will not be an upgrade for you. If you don't have an iPhone or a contract the 4S should be the phone that's going to be free on a 2 year contract soon.

The only way this makes sense is if Apple simply wants to sell a cheap phone for people who don't like contracts or wants to make a cheap 4" display phone so that 3.5" displays are completely phased out.

It's not just a matter of "liking" contracts, some international carriers simply don't offer them or conditions are so bad compared to the US that it's not worth it.

You also didn't consider that some contracts are longer than 2 years and lots of people still sign contracts for older generation iPhones (look at the latest sales charts).

For example, in Canada, where iPhone contracts last 3 years, it would be possible for someone to still be under contract with a 3GS in 2015.
 
Logically....this makes zero sense. They just announced yesterday that starting 5/1 they aren't approving non-retina apps. To suggest they would make a device without the screen is just sloppy work by the analyst.

That just means all apps have to have retina assets. They are still usable on non-retina displays.

If it were otherwise, the iPad mini would be made instantly obsolete.
 
The CPU capability is more important than screen rez. A new cheap phone that has the same form (ratio) as an iPhone 4 will likely drive the continued development of apps for the iPhone 4.
 
hmmm
 

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For all of those saying that this phone does not make sense: in a lot of countries the subscription based model simply does not work. For instance, I pay only 5€ a month and I get free SMS and phone calls to all of those from my carrier. People don't want to spend 30 euros a month to get an iPhone. In the long run it is more expensive to do so than to pay full price. In Europe and other countries this is quite common

Are you portuguese?
 
Back pedal!!!!

Mr Jobs at the launch of iPad 2 'We tested screens and the most optimum size was 10", let them make a 7", who wants that?'

.... Oooo iPad Mini has been launched!

Cute, but the iPad mini is not a 7" tablet. Not even close. It's much larger and much more usable than a 7" tablet. Steve Jobs was right about that.

It's a great tablet. What minor usability problems it has also come from the fact that Steve Jobs was still right about 10" being optimal. It's just a little sub-optimal, but leaps and bounds above a near-useless 7" tablet.
 
huh?

smart move to get a lower cost phone out there to the big masses i guess.

didn't we just read though that developers are required to support iphone 5's 4" display and that everything must support retina display going forward... hopefully development for iPhones doesn't get too much more disjointed with more resolutions/devices to support.
 
Yeah, right, while other manufacturers are bringing 400+ ppi screen Apple goes back to a 480x320 screen. Sounds like a great idea.
 
New iphone without retina ? I don't think it would be possible, even for a low cost one.
 
Back pedal!!!!

Mr Jobs at the launch of iPad 2 'We tested screens and the most optimum size was 10", let them make a 7", who wants that?'

.... Oooo iPad Mini has been launched!

Mr Jobs: Android too fragmented, budget phones pfft

... Budget iPhone!!!! (will someone tell me how they can run iOS6 on this if they can't run it on the iPad 1? ... And if they can't then isn't this fragmentation?)

Love someone who questions and has left the realm of the scammed

bye

The iPad Mini has an 8" screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio, like the larger iPad. 7" tablets by and large have 16:9 aspect ratios, which Steve Jobs did not like.

Android is very fragmented. That might or might not be a good thing, it depends on your philosophy of what phones should be like. Steve Jobs loved vertical integration - make the hardware and the software. Yes, some of the oldest iOS devices cannot run the newest iOS releases but most iOS devices do run the newest OS. This is minor fragmentation compared to Android land. I have a Samsung phone that was released this year. It released with Gingerbread (which came out in 2010). Most Android phones in use still run Gingerbread (40% have ICS or JB). Gingerbread is functional but worlds behind iOS (it's really quite bad, actually). Thankfully, Samsung deemed my phone model worthy to upgrade to ICS (I wouldn't have bought the phone if there wasn't an upgrade to ICS) but the phone still shipped with Gingerbread. ICS is pretty decent but still behind iOS (although there are features of Android I like more than iOS).

However, ICS is not the newest Android OS. Jelly Bean is out and Key Lime Pie is coming soon. JB is a step up from ICS (faster, more stable, better features) so I decided to root and install JB because Samsung likely will never upgrade my phone from ICS to JB and they certainly will not upgrade to KLP when it releases. JB is the first Android OS that I thought was good. ICS was almost there but with JB Google has finally made a good (though still not as optimized as it could be) OS.

Now that is fragmentation. Most Android devices run Gingerbread, that's like having most of Apple's devices running 4.2.1, which came out in 2010 (top version for the iPhone 3G). This means that the original iPad runs a newer OS than most Android phones do now. Plus, add in dozens of manufacturers (with a few big hitters) each with dozens of phone models and most running old or modified versions of Android all at varying screen sizes and resolution and you have huge fragmentation.

P.S. I'm sorry if you felt like you were scammed by Apple. I'd love to hear how Apple swindled you out of money by fraudulent business practices (that's essentially the definition of scammed). Also, Steve Jobs has not been running Apple for a while now so quoting him to contradict what Apple is doing now isn't very valid.
 
OK, so a 3 years old iPhone 4 (at a price point lower than actual 429€) has a retina display, and the new low cost iPhone has not. Even the (2 times) old iPod touch 4th gen has a retina display.
 
They said they will not be approving non retina apps, they didn't say they will stop approving apps that have both formats supported.
 
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