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Looks like a jet turbine here. A lot better than a trash can, RDD2, champagne bucket... (did I miss any?)

I see a large scale RC Thunderbolt II (A10) with two of these attached.

Funny how that works out with Thunderbolt 2 on board...

Just don't call it a Warthog.
 
You'd think that they have made calculations pointing to it making economic sense doing so.

Yes, and I can see why for this highly specialised, low volume product, it probably does. What I was trying to get at is that I don't think there's a larger trend going on here where we will start to see every $500 consumer electronics product built in US factories where people won't work for less than $25 an hour. You can't price your products competitively doing that.
 
What is a Good, Educated Guess, on what the entry level model will cost?

My guess is $2900 US for entry level and $3500 US for upgraded version.

Either way I'm buying one. Video Rendering on Avid MC and FCP7 is eating up TOO MUCH time on Video Projects I'm cutting. Currently editing on a 17" MBP w/ 2.93MHz C2D... which was fine these past few years, but I NEED AN UPGRADE BADLY !
 
Made in the USA, sure. Made by an American? No. Made by an automated robot. The level of automation for this has to be above their typical products, otherwise there's no way it'd be made in the USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L5KWIrG1vY

You're sort of right, but it's still jobs for real (American) people. Sure, we don't need a person to turn a screw driver for an entire shift, a robot can do that. However, a big factory like this still needs lots of real people to function, such as industrial engineers, line workers, and a whole gaggle to keep those robots running and maintained. In the end, its less jobs than assembling everything by human hand. But it's more real people with real jobs than having no factory here at all.
 
With dual fire pro cards, I'm gonna guess at least $1400 with a couple hundo on labour fees and maybe another couple hundo dollars on the rest of the materials, this Mac Pro may be 3000+...
 
Much more then if Fox Com made it (not sure if shipping cost will offset the manufacturing cost).

Depends on how much value they can add by really playing up the Made in USA thing. Will people think it's actually a more valuable product? Can Apple bump up the price that much?
 
Another idiot who thinks people in Texas still ride horses everywhere......and FYI the Texas economy is pretty robust that we are getting so many out of state transplants.

Sometimes horses, sometimes - pickup trucks, with a carcass of a murdered deer or a bear in the trunk and bull horns glued to the bumper.
 
Why should I pay more for goods when it can be built overseas cheaper? Why do you think the answer is to artificially prop up the labour market in ways that the economy doesn't support? Market forces are best left to do their thing unless intervention is absolutely necessary.

What about this is artificial?
 
Few jobs. How many people do you think it takes to make one of these? A tiny fraction of a person. It's mostly robots. That's why it's in the USA, otherwise labour costs would be too high.

Well, at least the employees who punch the time clock in that Texas factory are residents of Texas and the USA (hopefully :rolleyes:)

Any JOB in this country, no matter how small, is a step in the right direction for the USA. Unemployment is way too high, and if this helps alleviate even a tiny bit of it-- I'm all for it.
 
Apple makes a big deal about it (made in USA); they probably hire a hundred people to assemble the products.

and? what does anybody expect...they assemble stuff overseas, people complain. they assemble it domestically, people complain.
 
This will be my next Mac. Even if i believed the desktop revolution is over and the mobile market is getting stronger everyday I really want this machine in my desktop. My workflow will be so fast that I would never believed is my workflow.
 
Why should I pay more for goods when it can be built overseas cheaper? Why do you think the answer is to artificially prop up the labour market in ways that the economy doesn't support? Market forces are best left to do their thing unless intervention is absolutely necessary.

You're assuming there are market forces at play rather than the Chinese government devaluing their currency to make their labour artificially cheaper; if all the currencies of the world were floating and subject to the same forces of supply and demand along without onerous regulations (yet sufficient to protect workers rights and the environment) then I'd say "let the competition begin" but the reality is that we aren't living in that ideal world but rather a system that is heavily skewed to those rigging the market.
 
It's good they are moving some jobs to the US. Just wonder if there is something about the Mac Pro that makes it more suitable for moving production to the US than their other models.

I'm guessing the low volume :(

That is what I am thinking to. The next question would be, if it doesn't sell well with Apple either:

A: Close down and move it over seas again; or
B: Start producing other products at the plant?
 
I have to wonder why there are no design similarities between the new pro and the new AirPort Extreme and AirPort Time Capsule?
Putting them side by side you'd think they were designed by 2 different companies.

because as apple has said, theyre designing the form from the function. a wifi antenna tower has a completely different function than a hot pro workstation.
 
But it's not going to be made in America, only assembled. I don't understand what's so amazing about that. Am I missing something? Maybe someone could explain it to me. :confused:
 
I have to wonder why there are no design similarities between the new pro and the new AirPort Extreme and AirPort Time Capsule?
Putting them side by side you'd think they were designed by 2 different companies.

What reason would there be to put them side by side? The whole point of a wifi box is that it goes somewhere away from the computers.

if it doesn't sell well with Apple either:

A: Close down and move it over seas again; or
B: Start producing other products at the plant?

Or C: Make tweaks to the product and/or pricing
 
That is what I am thinking to. The next question would be, if it doesn't sell well with Apple either:

A: Close down and move it over seas again; or
B: Start producing other products at the plant?

Flextronics already has the facility, and the Mac Pro is going to be very successful, given the market niche it's targeted to.

Graphic artist's are going to buy these en masse.
 
But it's not going to be made in America, only assembled. I don't understand what's so amazing about that. Am I missing something? Maybe someone could explain it to me. :confused:

the computer components industry does not reside in the US -- it resides in asia. thats where the foundries and factories are that make chips.

assembling it here is the best that can be done. what more could you possibly expect??
 
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