My 2009 MBP lasted 12 years, when I upgraded to the M1 MBA. The beauty of the MBP was, as you said, the number of ports and the upgradability of it. What I wasn't fond of was the spinning beach ball. Within the first year, I replaced the HDD for an SSD, replaced the SuperDrive with an "external" HDD for storage and upgraded the RAM to 8GB (which I believe was max for that model). The only other component I had to replace was the battery, which was far easier than the newer MacBooks.I had the final design of the OG MacBook Pro - the one with the 8600m gt that officially ended Apple's relationship with nvidia.
Beautiful industrial design. Honestly the amount of ports on that thing just looked cool. Like you were some sort of cyber engineer or something.
Considering the pricing is pretty much, at starting level, what it was 20 years ago, i'd suggest that it's not kept up with inflation. If it had, it'd be around $4000 today.Inflation adjusted the prices are pretty much the same.
Ah the US, ahead in many areas, but sadly 3 years behind (5 in some countries) in the legal age for alcohol consumption.I would toast the MBP, but you're not even old enough to drink yet.
It wasn’t the Touch Bar that was the problem and needs improvements - it was that software developers ignored it. You can’t blame the Touch Bar for that. Apple should bring it back and actually incentivize developers to utilize it more fullyMe too. I have a M1 Pro MBP since release or so and I still try to dismiss pop up alerts from the nonexistent Touch Bar. But if it came back, it would need changes as I feel it wasn’t as productive as I wanted it to be.
Why would developers support something that was only on MacBook Pros? If Apple wanted it to be well supported, they would need to add it to all their laptops at the very least, and ideally to their desktop keyboard as well. Also Apple themselves would have to focus on software quality, since the touch bar itself being buggy was part of the problem with it.It wasn’t the Touch Bar that was the problem and needs improvements - it was that software developers ignored it. You can’t blame the Touch Bar for that. Apple should bring it back and actually incentivize developers to utilize it more fully
Phenomenal. Thank you for this informationMany people liked it, just not enough for Apple to continue it. Online comments also tend towards the extreme so you generally hear the stronger opinions. In this case, mostly against it. There are many discussions out there by people who love it, they just either get ignored or aren't quite as popular.
I didn't have one with the Touch Bar but most people I talked with in real life who had one didn't mind it.
Developers generally didn't like it but many "creatives" did. In this survey it was used daily by a slim majority of people and used regularly by "creatives": https://macbookjournal.com/macbook-usage-survey/
Another one: https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/25/future-of-the-touch-bar/
None of these are scientific polls, but the general pattern suggests most were indifferent and used it when needed (which matches my anecdotal experience talking with people) and the rest appear to be split pretty closely in really liking it and really disliking it.
I think there was enough push back that the added complexity and cost of it weren't worth it for Apple to continue. I'm just glad they tried something different, even if it didn't last.
I would have liked it (did when I tried it a few times) but wasn't at a place financially where I could afford a new MacBook Pro at the time.
It wasn’t the Touch Bar that was the problem and needs improvements - it was that software developers ignored it. You can’t blame the Touch Bar for that. Apple should bring it back and actually incentivize developers to utilize it more fully
And that fact that’s it’s now a company worth trillions of dollars will ensure it will never again be a risk-taker or be truly innovative. Once companies become “blue chip” stocks, institutional investors demand a certain kind of consistent return. Wall Street doesn’t like surprises. That’s why, despite all the hate he gets on these pages, Tim Cook was probably the right guy at the right time.Seeing Steve Jobs get so excited like this makes me realise just how much Apple has lost the plot under current management. Yes, the company is now worth trillions of dollars, but it's boring boring boring.
I think that the base memory on current models is fine, but the storage should be at least 512GB given how much storage the OS and System Data consume. I’m constantly having to free up space on my 256GB Mac Mini just to do OS updates. I thought I could save a few bucks and use an external drive for most things, but there are certain things that need to be on the internal drive (looking at you Xcode). Also, storage and memory upgrade pricing is definitely greedy on Apple’s part.The Touch Bar can be unreliable, I haven't had a single laptop (sample size = 3) where the Touch Bar didn't fail over time. Furthermore, the early generations didn't have a physical escape key making it harder to touch type and that was so so frustrating. I just generally don't want to have to look at my keyboard when I'm using it, if I want to touch glass I want to be looking at it, like on an iPad or iPhone.
Inflation adjusted the prices are pretty much the same. The greed of Apple isn't so much in the starting price itself, but the base RAM and Storage. If you look at the pricing trends (prior to the recent data centre AI craze ruining pricing) Apple stopped matching base RAM and Storage increases to general market trends a while ago. There was a point when the base RAM and Storage would double in Macs roughly every 2 years. While that is no longer reasonable, it is still the case that Apple hasn't even tried to match the real world price and capacity trends in at least the last decade.
And nowadays we see only small steps, Wow effect was disappeared. Why? Cuz Marketing is the enemy of progressI remember working at an Apple Store when these launched (along with the other first Intel Macs). There was such a beautiful sense of wondrous excitement among all of us. As our Mac Geniuses booted up the first ones, we were all wowed by how fast they started up and the overall better performance. (And also of course, before Boot Camp was officially a sanctioned thing, all of us were wondering if it were possible to install Windows on it in some form or fashion.) These Intel Macs felt so fresh and new and everything else instantly felt so old.
Years later, I imagine all the retail folks felt the same with the switch to Apple Silicon. By that point, I was just the average consumer, but I definitely felt that same energy again, eagerly ready to jump in with a new M1 Mac.
There was something fun and magical about those days and those sorta "big shift" moments, both as an employee at Apple and as a fan/consumer as well. Yeah, I know it's a bit 'drink the kool-aid' but damn that kool-aid tasted delicious and was sure sweeter than the old kool-aid! haha
Seeing Steve Jobs get so excited like this makes me realise just how much Apple has lost the plot under current management. Yes, the company is now worth trillions of dollars, but it's boring boring boring.
To this day, this is still one of the most favorite products I ever purchased from Apple.Same, and 9mins later, I want to buy one.
I liked it at first and then kind of grew indifferent to it. Like newer cars, sometimes I missed the quick ability to adjust something without having to guess/look down at what was displayed and the exact location to toggle.Why does everyone hate the Touch Bar? I love the Touch Bar - I am genuinely a little sad that my M1 MBP is approaching the end of its life and I will have to replace it with a new, non-Touch Bar MBP