The struggle with Siri is still very real.
So is the battery life struggle
The struggle with Siri is still very real.
I like Siri on the iPhone when it works, but at times it totally gets things very wrong that it previously got right.
What really gets me ticked off is how Siri on ATV is worse than useless almost every time I try to make use of it.
Siri should:
1) Work offline (for tasks not requiring internet: calling, creating lists, setting a timer, etc.).
2) Instead of telling me she doesn't understand, just take what she thinks I said, send it to Google, and show me the top result(s).
I have turned it on every now and then as an experiment. In fact, I recall demonstrating it's uselessness to my coworker when Ozzy went missing after purportedly boinking his hairdresser. I said "Has Ozzy Osbourne been found yet?". I believe we tried 17 times (something crazy like that), and Siri failed to correctly interpret the phrase each time. We both had a laugh and I turned it off immediately afterwards.
Lots of people don't use products that have performed poorly; that doesn't make their impression of them invalid.
i just did that and it worked fine for me - returned similar results as google did - and the voice recognition worked fineI have turned it on every now and then as an experiment. In fact, I recall demonstrating it's uselessness to my coworker when Ozzy went missing after purportedly boinking his hairdresser. I said "Has Ozzy Osbourne been found yet?". I believe we tried 17 times (something crazy like that), and Siri failed to correctly interpret the phrase each time. We both had a laugh and I turned it off immediately afterwards.
Lots of people don't use products that have performed poorly; that doesn't make their impression of them invalid.
i suspect if we listened to them we'd hear slurring and stuttering - when i speak normally to siri she understands me 95-99% of the time. I'd also like them to put an android phone next to an iPhone and compare the accuracy there. i bet its close.I wonder why kind of accents do these people use because Siri has been understanding me very very well. Complaints all day long.![]()
i'm really curious if you guys posting all these things you claim SIRI can't do are telling the truth because i just did word for word what you requested and SIRI worked perfectly for me. I said "hey SIRI read me the text" her response "you have no new text messages". In fact i've tried a few of the things listed here and all worked. I have the iPhone 6S - don't know if that makes a difference - perhaps it has a better microphone.Siri sucks for me. It can't do simple things like read me text messages I've received. Yesterday I got a text. I saw it on my lock screen but didn't read it. I told Siri, "Read the text." The thing asked me what I wanted to reply with. I repeated, "Read. Me. The. Text." Same response. I finally said, "Siri read me the text message." SAME RESPONSE.
I've NEVER found it useful.
i'm really curious if you guys posting all these things you claim SIRI can't do are telling the truth because i just did word for word what you requested and SIRI worked perfectly for me. I said "hey SIRI read me the text" her response "you have no new text messages". In fact i've tried a few of the things listed here and all worked. I have the iPhone 6S - don't know if that makes a difference - perhaps it has a better microphone.
You can fix it yourself. Siri can be trained to pronounce and spell any word or phrase or name.Still renders the common name "Josiah" as "Joe Seiyu" 90% of the time. BONUS: There doesn't seem to be anyone in the USA with that name. It appears to be more common in Japan.
FIX THIS APPLE!!! You're ruining *EVERTHINGY!!!*
(Yeah. I went there.)
I wouldn't say "trained" More like tricked. It involves setting up a contact for the name and using a phonetic name in order for Siri/dictation to get the spelling right. And the post was about spelling, not pronunciation (the latter of which Siri can be trained).You can fix it yourself. Siri can be trained to pronounce and spell any word or phrase or name.
Siri should:
1) Work offline (for tasks not requiring internet: calling, creating lists, setting a timer, etc.).
2) Instead of telling me she doesn't understand, just take what she thinks I said, send it to Google, and show me the top result(s).
I wouldn't say "trained" More like tricked. It involves setting up a contact for the name and using a phonetic name in order for Siri/dictation to get the spelling right...
Mike
Not entirely true. It's more about the order of doing it. Yes you have to set up 'Josiah' in the contacts but you can spell it normally. Once it is in the contacts, you can see Siri briefly try 'Joe Seiyu' and then she goes right to Josiah and chooses the correct contact. There is no phonetic hacks but I do wish Siri could create contacts just by dictating them. That would simplify the process but Siri is not currently allowed to create contacts - probably because you can currently access Siri on locked phones so Apple doesn't want possible security holes or people creating 'Mike Hunt' contacts on other people's phones when they're not looking.I wouldn't say "trained" More like tricked. It involves setting up a contact for the name and using a phonetic name in order for Siri/dictation to get the spelling right. And the post was about spelling, not pronunciation (the latter of which Siri can be trained).
Mike
Not entirely true. It's more about the order of doing it. Yes you have to set up 'Josiah' in the contacts but you can spell it normally. Once it is in the contacts, you can see Siri briefly try 'Joe Seiyu' and then she goes right to Josiah and chooses the correct contact. There is no phonetic hacks but I do wish Siri could create contacts just by dictating them. That would simplify the process but Siri is not currently allowed to create contacts - probably because you can currently access Siri on locked phones so Apple doesn't want possible security holes or people creating 'Mike Hunt' contacts on other people's phones when they're not looking.
How do you propose to correct the spelling by the third time if Siri doesn't think it's spelled wrong the first time? And then if it was corrected, how is Siri supposed to know the context every time. Sometimes it's spelled Roxy and sometimes Roxie.Setting up a contact is what I meant about having to trick it. By it I meant not just Siri but the voice recognition it uses, which is the same as voice dictation. For example, my dog's name is Roxie. If I text my wife, using Siri: "Text my wife, 'Babe, I'm going to take Roxie to the park.'" It will create a text like this "Babe, I'm going to take Roxy to the park." (For the record there is reason for the spelling.)
Now I don't need to have my dog as a contact. But in order to get her name spelled correctly I had to. The same is true for other spellings where I have no need to have a contact. I would rather it simply understand by, say the third time of correcting the spelling, that that is how I want the default spelling to be.
Mike
You answered your own question: Siri, or voice recognition, should very well know how I want to spell it by the third or fourth time I have corrected it. Please note most people use Siri and voice recognition interchangeably. In this case it is more a voice recognition issue. By the way, Google learns when you correct it (which in turn affects google now).How do you propose to correct the spelling by the third time if Siri doesn't think it's spelled wrong the first time?
If I have repeatedly changed the spelling it ought to realize that is how I, personally, want to spell it. If it is only temporary the next 3-4 times I spell it another way it ought to change again.And then if it was corrected, how is Siri supposed to know the context every time. Sometimes it's spelled Roxy and sometimes Roxie.
Apple has already been doing almost the same thing with autocorrect for years. It could do likewise with VR.It sounds more like you want the ability to type (and edit) into Siri which is what users have been asking for a few years now. I never saw the need for this because it's always going to be a niche case for specific users but Apple must see conflicts in there somewhere, otherwise they would probably implement it.
Alex Acero, who leads the Siri speech team at Apple, said Siri's error rate has been lowered by more than a factor of two in many cases.
I hate it when companies give comparison numbers without also giving a baseline.
I.e. what does "factor of two" mean in real life?
Were errors lowered from 25% to 12%, which means things are working nicely? Or did errors drop from 90% to 45%, which is still not so good?
i just did that and it worked fine for me - returned similar results as google did - and the voice recognition worked fine
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i suspect if we listened to them we'd hear slurring and stuttering - when i speak normally to siri she understands me 95-99% of the time. I'd also like them to put an android phone next to an iPhone and compare the accuracy there. i bet its close.
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i'm really curious if you guys posting all these things you claim SIRI can't do are telling the truth because i just did word for word what you requested and SIRI worked perfectly for me. I said "hey SIRI read me the text" her response "you have no new text messages". In fact i've tried a few of the things listed here and all worked. I have the iPhone 6S - don't know if that makes a difference - perhaps it has a better microphone.
I wonder why kind of accents do these people use because Siri has been understanding me very very well. Complaints all day long.![]()
You can, I just asked Siri "how do you say the vegetable shallots in Spanish" and she put up Wolfram with the translation.