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Apple's Macworld Exit Due to Politics Not Health Issues?
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A MacWorld without Apple?
Yeah, sure. I'm sure the vendors will turn out in droves for that. Certainly not at Moscone. MacWorld 2010 at the Holiday Inn next to the Starving Artists sale? It would be like a big expensive flea market. Attending would be like seeing your favorite band from the 70s whose only original member is the drummer.
Yeah, sure. I'm sure the vendors will turn out in droves for that. Certainly not at Moscone. MacWorld 2010 at the Holiday Inn next to the Starving Artists sale? It would be like a big expensive flea market. Attending would be like seeing your favorite band from the 70s whose only original member is the drummer.
I knew it! Obama is going to appoint Steve Jobs to the economic team! I flippin' would. The iPhone is single-handedly keeping the cellphone market afloat, and Apple is gaining market share in almost every area they compete in WAY faster than anyone else.
Finally, someone being a little more reasonable in this thread.
All these mac fanboys (and I'm one to a certain extent
) don't seem to realise that Steve won't be there all the time. And Apple as a company realises that he has a lot more charisma and show presence than any of their other higher execs.And lets be honest, what other company has as many trade shows on their own as Apple? We don't have SonyWorld or PanasonicWorld (correct me if I'm wrong
). Most of the largest electronics companies, companies much larger than Apple, rely on industry trade shows such as CES etc. Its heaps cheaper, and they still get their products shown to the industry.If you knew anything, you'd know that Steve Jobs earns a $1/year salary. So no, he doesn't get paid, but tradeshows cost millions of dollars for companies. From banners and other marketing, to getting employees on the floor to help out.
Very surprising news, but I'm sure there's a strong reason behind all this madness. I'm personally thinking that we may get CEO Schiller at Macworld.
Well this may be part of a grand new strategy, but it seems rather poorly implemented so far.
If all along Apple's plan has been to stop MacWorld Keynotes, then there would seem to be two logical, non-panic inducing alternatives to today's news.
1. Announce the withdrawal/demotion months ago before people's expectations started to build and/or people started putting down money for this thing. To further blunt the trauma of the announcement, announce a new product through a video podcast at the same time as the withdrawal announcement. The announcement of the new aluminum MacBooks would have been an ideal opportunity to do this.
2. Do the full Stevenote, then announce the next day that there will be no more Stevenotes. We still get the Stevenote and the new products, Apple still gets the full publicity from the press that ONLY comes with a Stevenote, and we gently transition to the new era.
On a slightly related note of annoyance, if this really does mean a planned new era where new products and/or upgrades are held back until January, why the heck are potential Mini/iMac/Mac Pro buyers been made to wait this long for upgrades and/or overhauls?
If all along Apple's plan has been to stop MacWorld Keynotes, then there would seem to be two logical, non-panic inducing alternatives to today's news.
1. Announce the withdrawal/demotion months ago before people's expectations started to build and/or people started putting down money for this thing. To further blunt the trauma of the announcement, announce a new product through a video podcast at the same time as the withdrawal announcement. The announcement of the new aluminum MacBooks would have been an ideal opportunity to do this.
2. Do the full Stevenote, then announce the next day that there will be no more Stevenotes. We still get the Stevenote and the new products, Apple still gets the full publicity from the press that ONLY comes with a Stevenote, and we gently transition to the new era.
On a slightly related note of annoyance, if this really does mean a planned new era where new products and/or upgrades are held back until January, why the heck are potential Mini/iMac/Mac Pro buyers been made to wait this long for upgrades and/or overhauls?
There is something else going on. Apple doesn't just pull out of Macworld for political reasons anymore than Microsoft would pull out of E3. Also, if this is just politics, why wouldn't Steve give the last and final keynote at Macworld? This is bad news for Apple. Hopefully the company can keep things going without Steve.
I just don't think there's anything to show this year. The new unibody MacBooks hit in October. What's he supposed to get up there and say? "Wow, look at this updated iMac. It looks the same as the old one; just a spec-bump." "Bam! Here's a new MacPro; but it's just a spec-bump." "Isn't this neat? It's an iPhone 3G! Now with 32GB of storage." Or... "Oh, yeah, there's One More Thing: check out Snow Leopard. Yeah, it looks exactly the same as Leopard, but the underlying code is tighter."
Steve's a showman. This year's keynote was never going to be much of a show.
I just think Jobs likes to work the health thing. He enjoys the speculation, consternation and financial gyrations. In this way he can say it is nobodies business but his own and still get the attention. This is all a lot more fun and fulfilling for him than having to sing and dance to get noticed.
All he has to do is make a public appearance and tell people honestly what is going on. That would end all this, but he doesn't want that to happen.
All he has to do is make a public appearance and tell people honestly what is going on. That would end all this, but he doesn't want that to happen.
Macworld is dead.
Pretty sure IDG will pull the plus no later than 2010.
The future will be special events at Apple's will. Just like the article states.
It's over boys.
Move on.
Pretty sure IDG will pull the plus no later than 2010.
The future will be special events at Apple's will. Just like the article states.
It's over boys.
Move on.
Not surprised
Macworld will go on in 2010? Without Apple, Belkin, Adobe...
Who do they plan to invite? Symantec to hock their new Mac virus solution?
Macworld will go on in 2010? Without Apple, Belkin, Adobe...
Who do they plan to invite? Symantec to hock their new Mac virus solution?
Macworld will go on in 2010? Without Apple, Belkin, Adobe...
Who do they plan to invite? Symantec to hock their new Mac virus solution?
Them, and a guy with a 3 card monte booth...Steve Balmer maybe?
Winner gets a copy of Windows Vista, Doh! No. Mojave!!!
<- me laughing. I am not an Obama fan, but something like that might just make me one. that is exactly what we need. After all Steve took a company in bankruptcy (on the verge of closing its doors), got the enemy to invest heavily to bail them out (Miscrosoft) , and then turn around and start out-selling them in product. Exactly what this country needs..But seriously, that other thread is still trolling on with pescimism (and yes I may have posted one myself - after all I spend $3500 to convert my entire platform over and have been proding my employer to convert to macs. My wife just shook her head at this news (like you dummy, spent all that money).
But I also wonder something. Steve introduce Ballmer last year at the keynote and talked about adding full exchange support. I wonder with Gates being gone, MS said oneday they would stop making OS's, MS put a lot of money to back Novell Linux (oops, gee sorry about that not working out
). I wonder if Steve does take a lesser role, could this mean less of a rivalry between MS and Apple and them working together on creating a really awesome platform that is even more revolutionary.
Think about it.
Snow Leapord - Focus on Stability, no new features.
Windows 7 -still alot of waivering back and forth on being a stabilazation build or a totally newly designed OS.
MS - was talk about adopting an end to end stragegy and working with "select hardware Vendors"
ever ongoing issue with hackintosh's and clones.
Adobe - Does not make Premier Elements for MAC anymore due to the dominance of ilife, instead maker there new Premier Elements more like imovie 08 (which totally stink,cause they two limited the timeline editing features)
Just think. apple designs the best hardware and OS. Microsoft teams up with Apple to make really good applications. Other software manufactures no longer have to worry about writing for 2 platforms, can not focus on one platform and dedicate resources to improving the app even more.
this would be like computer utopia - but get ready for either higher prices due to no competition, or lower prices because the share volume makes up for it.
Imagine corporations no longer spending millions of dollars and wasting time pickering over what platform to implement. Instead they buy the product and build on it from there.
Computer Utopia - yes
A lot of Computer Consultants and I/T folks losing their jobs - already happening
Companies can focus on their product and get back to customer service to earn our business - one can only hope.
Maybe some good things can come out of this recession. Everyone stop thinking they are better than everyone else and get back to serving the good of one another.
Apple needs Steve. He's such an iconic moving character behind the brand. It's like you know if Steve has touched it, it'll do wonders.
Also, for those who are worried about losing the large-scale keynotes, Apple has rented Moscone West on occasion for their own announcements (one of the music events, I think?), so stadium-style stevenotes aren't out of the question.
Physical tech conferences are looking more and more silly as time goes on. At least WWDC has a point (developer training and networking); lots of companies this year figure it's much cheaper to advertise on the web than have a booth.
Physical tech conferences are looking more and more silly as time goes on. At least WWDC has a point (developer training and networking); lots of companies this year figure it's much cheaper to advertise on the web than have a booth.
MyTV wants to believe.
But I'm not convinced.
Actually, a hacked AppleTV looks to be a pretty cool setup (haven't gotten around to actually getting one yet, though).
I agree though that Steve, for better or worse, is what makes Apple, well, Apple. I do wonder how the company will fare post-Steve whenever that happens.
The may regret this if the economy keeps on tanking the way it is, they might find themselves having to close some of those retail stores. It would be cheaper to do the trade shows.
I'm sorry but that does not jive with one of Steve Jobs' comments in the mid-90s when he said that if he ran Apple again he would "milk the installed base." Best place to do that is at Macworld.
Macworld will go on in 2010? Without Apple, Belkin, Adobe...
Who do they plan to invite? Symantec to hock their new Mac virus solution?
Invite Psystar...
Nah, Apple doesn't need Steve necessarily. The guy has had such a strong influence there for so long, does anyone really think that there were no plans for succession? He's probably written a big, giant iBook called What Would Steve Do for the board after his departure.
Apple will probably be very relevant for the next decade or so, with or without Steve. Then, something better will come along and we'll all start using holograph technology or something.
If Apple stops making good products, somebody else will start. Not to sound like one of those Year-Of-Linux nutjobs, but the open source movement has been building toward a critical mass for years now; eventually the communities will get the usability thing right and we'll find ourselves in a new age of participatory computing. Or everyone will indefinitely use their Macbooks until they break.
Apple will probably be very relevant for the next decade or so, with or without Steve. Then, something better will come along and we'll all start using holograph technology or something.
If Apple stops making good products, somebody else will start. Not to sound like one of those Year-Of-Linux nutjobs, but the open source movement has been building toward a critical mass for years now; eventually the communities will get the usability thing right and we'll find ourselves in a new age of participatory computing. Or everyone will indefinitely use their Macbooks until they break.
