This doesn't comply with physics. We will see reviews, but I think Apple should get a strong physicist in the board meetings.
And they stuck the on/off button on the bottom? I....wha.... Ok.
Well, considering it vents from the bottom, the logical way to use it is upside down. Improved thermals and easy access to the power button. Apple should just update their product photography to reflect this.This doesn't comply with physics. We will see reviews, but I think Apple should get a strong physicist in the board meetings.
Wow, you really are the funny guy.Worse, when some one attempts to push their 1/8th headphone jack in to a USB-C port they may be sending you the repair bill.
Not only funny, but not wrong! 😉Wow, you really are the funny guy.
I'm sceptical too, an intake next to an exhaust - even if they have "zones" - will always lead to hot air being sucked in. It reeks of the butterfly keyboard scenario - we are the physics and if you don't agree you're typing it wrong.This doesn't comply with physics. We will see reviews, but I think Apple should get a strong physicist in the board meetings.
Maybe it sucks on one half and blows on the other and it should be on its side. Oh, and that would make the power button easier to get to.Well, considering it vents from the bottom, the logical way to use it is upside down. Improved thermals and easy access to the power button. Apple should just update their product photography to reflect this.
I mean because of the ventilation design not just the how it looks.Really?
The Studio does much more of that for me
you got a picture for this? of course apple show the top, front, back, no bottom
Duh! That is why it is a concern.Acoustical performance at idle is available for the mini but not at max continuous power, only at idle
Even on a MacBook Pro the fan noise is minimal unless you’re in a soundproofed room etc and pushing it hard. And I’d guess in most “pro” environments like that, a studio would be the more likely device, maybe.Duh! That is why it is a concern.
I would assume a good part of that power budget is the ability to provide full specification compliant power to the Thunderbolt ports. If Apple provides fewer ports and the power requirements is lessNot sure why a Mini without a display would use that much power, you can't put that much into the chip. The Air is fanless, so yes it is thermally limited of course.
Ah. Makes sense, thank you.I would assume a good part of that power budget is the ability to provide full specification compliant power to the Thunderbolt ports. If Apple provides fewer ports and the power requirements is less
Fair argument, although I'd assume that power consumption is for the Pro? Not sure why a Mini without a display would use that much power, you can't put that much into the chip. The Air is fanless, so yes it is thermally limited of course. Could be that the Air will be the same performance as the iPad Pro.
The PSU is powering more than just the SoC, it also has to provide power to all the ports...
Not sure if joking… the stuff around the CPU is on the iMac too.
I would assume a good part of that power budget is the ability to provide full specification compliant power to the Thunderbolt ports. If Apple provides fewer ports and the power requirements is less
Ah. Makes sense, thank you.
Maybe it sucks on one half and blows on the other and it should be on its side. Oh, and that would make the power button easier to get to.![]()
Yes, I did. Thanks for spelling out for me that I needed it spelled out for me.Oh, so you needed it spelled out for you...?
Speak for yourself. I bought a MacMini 2012 Server Quad i7 in 2012 and 12 years later, upgraded to 2TB SSD internal and 16GB RAM (one dust clean out while upgrading the drive), it's still very usable for daily activities and running my whole house media center. I've encoded so many MKVs and dumped so many 4K Atmos blurays on it, it's ridiculous and no failures in 12 years (manual set fan limits while encoding). And I thought my Amiga 3000 got a lot if use, lasting me 9 years.Apple are usually good these days with acoustics but the smaller form factor may result in a louder device at high workloads.
My concern is more about dust accumulation. The trend with ARM and its efficiency is towards more passively cooled devices. See the newest Apple TV and MacBooks for example. They are quiet, have fewer moving parts and so are longer lasting. However it appears they have prioritized power over that here. It would have been nice to have the Mac mini become a passively cooled device. It was never meant to be a Pro device in any case. It was always an entry device and device for those wanting the smallest possible and quietest desktop form factor.
Deep breaths. Exhale slowly.Greed greed greed! If Microsoft weren't the aware pushing shill of a company it is, I'd be moving to Windows 11 for sure. But they seem to think your privacy doesn't matter one whit. As it is, will probably get a Mini for max usage and a Windows laptop for portable usage since I need some Windows only programs for updating certain things in my home theater and Apple no longer supports Intel Windows on their ARM machines even with a good CPU emulator (doesn't need to be super fast for subwoofer optimization software. It just needs to run.) But then there's gaming to consider with Windows....
It's the same height as the original 2005 Mac mini.“It's taller than the prior version, but it is 2.75 inches smaller.”
So it’s taller but smaller. Got it.