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No intention to flame and to @RalphTheDog no offence taken.

True, I didn't see the humour in that but didn't intend to flame.

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No problem, I will admit to coming off a bit abrasive and egotistical from time to time. That is only because of my greatness and the lacking of the mindless masses that surround me.

PS. Don't take anything too seriously from a person who thinks they are a talking dog.
 
Wow, people in the UK sure do like to whine and complain a lot.

Here is an idea, why don't you complain or suggest improvements to those stores instead of coming here to complain? Or even better, get off your arse and create a better competitor in the marketplace.
:rolleyes:

I suppose complaining directly would require some effort and possibly require some actual "proof" that you were a legitimate customer in the past which is why it is much easier to just complain anonymously on sites like this.
 
Maybe he was a good guy at the wrong company ?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

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He was at Tesco.com dude, not Tesco. Dixons Group are the Krusty Burger of Electronics retail..

Krusty Burger, nice....

There are two strands to my visceral hatred of DSGi (dixons store group international, their trading name).

One of the hatreds is historic and doesnt really apply now, but it is an insight into their corporate mentality. Pre internet DSGi had what was as close to a monopoly on the British High street as you could get. If a product couldnt get itself into Dixons, it couldnt succeed in the UK and wouldnt be launched. Simple as. They essentially pick and chose the goods that we Brits could buy.

They ruthlessly exploited price maintenance and colluded with manufacturers and suppliers.

A manufacturer that allowed their goods to be sold to a discount electrical chain would be cut out of the Dixons money tree.

What did that mean? It meant that no matter which shop you visited, every single set of goods cost the same price to the same penny in every shop.

This iron grip on the high street began to crumble around the late nineties with the onset of the internet and government regulation outlawing price maintenance.

Why do i dislike DSGi now?

Judge a store by how they would treat an uninformed customer. Your old mum, for example. If your mum went into PC World to buy a new computer, with a budget of £350.

This is what she would come out with. A new computer that costs £399, an unnecessary security product that cost another £50, an unnecessary office home edition £50, and an extended warranty that includes a 'whatever happens' guarantee, this is an open ended agreement in which she pays £15 a month from the day she purchases the machine until she cancels/dies.

The thing is, even with resistance their high pressure technique on the extras makes it very difficult for people to say no.
 
Wow, people in the UK sure do like to whine and complain a lot.

Here is an idea, why don't you complain or suggest improvements to those stores instead of coming here to complain? Or even better, get off your arse and create a better competitor in the marketplace.
:rolleyes:

I suppose complaining directly would require some effort and possibly require some actual "proof" that you were a legitimate customer in the past which is why it is much easier to just complain anonymously on sites like this.

Yep, just us Brits whining and complaining:

http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-Geek-Squad-Policies/Best-Buy-Experience-BAD/td-p/126

http://www.my3cents.com/reviews/radio_shack/service

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1725362

Yep, just us. Not because we are surprised and concerned about the Apple Store experience going down the pan.

So annoyed by some people on here tonight and where they are taking this thread!!

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Oh dear

The only people in the UK who shop at these abysmal stores are those who are too lazy or can't shop online. Dixons and PC World have the worst staff and service going. They badger and badger, trying to sell you an extended guarantee which is utterly worthless. The last one who tried this with me just wouldn't let it go, he could see I was getting really angry with him, but his commission was all he could think of. If you want great service, then yes John Lewis is the place to go. Both pay their staff minimum wage, but the culture in John Lewis is far better, they look after their staff and on a lot of electricals give an extended guarantee as standard. The staff in Dixons/PC World are just endless school leavers or recently unemployed.

To hear that Apple have taken this guy on is just amazing. Perhaps they think that if one Englishman such as Mr Ives did great things, then perhaps another will as well. Customer service and the words PC World/Dixons/Curries is just a joke in my opinion.
 
Yep, just us Brits whining and complaining:

http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-Geek-Squad-Policies/Best-Buy-Experience-BAD/td-p/126

http://www.my3cents.com/reviews/radio_shack/service

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1725362

Yep, just us. Not because we are surprised and concerned about the Apple Store experience going down the pan.

So annoyed by some people on here tonight and where they are taking this thread!!

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Each one of those companies has a feedback "FORM". Fill it out in a calm and mature manner and someone will forward it onto someone higher up.

Complaining on a forum, even one hosted by the company will get ignored for the most part.

A bunch of us Canadians decided to fill out feedback forms on apple.com, our carrier sites and the CRTC concerning iPhone locking practices and the lack of official unlocks being offered for off contract iPhones by carriers.

I personally, received a phone call from a representative of the office of the president of my carrier on my cellphone. They left a voice mail with a phone number and extension to call them back on. Had I just complained on sites like this and not taken the effort to contact their company and the regulators directly, I would not have received any response.

A few months later, we had iPhones on multiple carriers and some of them started offering official unlocks for iPhones for off contract iPhones and some after just 3 months into a contract.

I officially unlocked my 3GS before I sold it to my boss after upgrading to a 4S on another carrier.
 
Congrats to Apple on hiring the one decent manager in DSG corporate history.

Yours,
An ex-DSG employee (many many years ago).
 
Each one of those companies has a feedback "FORM". Fill it out in a calm and mature manner and someone will forward it onto someone higher up.

Complaining on a forum, even one hosted by the company will get ignored for the most part.

A bunch of us Canadians decided to fill out feedback forms on apple.com, our carrier sites and the CRTC concerning iPhone locking practices and the lack of official unlocks being offered for off contract iPhones by carriers.

I personally, received a phone call from a representative of the office of the president of my carrier on my cellphone. They left a voice mail with a phone number and extension to call them back on. Had I just complained on sites like this and not taken the effort to contact their company and the regulators directly, I would not have received any response.

A few months later, we had iPhones on multiple carriers and some of them started offering official unlocks for iPhones for off contract iPhones and some after just 3 months into a contract.

I officially unlocked my 3GS before I sold it to my boss after upgrading to a 4S on another carrier.

Apple is different than the other companies mentioned. Apple does respond to feedback (Other companies are thinking about launching a class action against Apple because they do.) Most companies have their feedback boxes connected directly to the shredder. The better ones send it off to recycling afterwords.
 
oh the irony

Wow, people in the UK sure do like to whine and complain a lot.

Here is an idea, why don't you complain or suggest improvements to those stores instead of coming here to complain? Or even better, get off your arse and create a better competitor in the marketplace.
:rolleyes:

I suppose complaining directly would require some effort and possibly require some actual "proof" that you were a legitimate customer in the past which is why it is much easier to just complain anonymously on sites like this.

Let me help you Aristotle as you are clearly struggling with this thread, there have only been 70 or so posts so it might not be clear yet.

DSG are generally renowned for providing at best an indifferent retail opportunity. For years staff were completely preoccupied with selling over-priced warranties rather than pay attention to helping prospective customers. When they started selling Apple products they did so with little enthusiasm and less knowledge.

Now, it does appear that service in the new revamped bigger stores may have improved, and perhaps thats due to this gentleman's efforts ( I refer to the new Apple SVP at the very start of the thread Aristotle, stay with us..)

However the traditional retail experience of DSG is so far removed from the Apple retail experience that it is not surprising that many contributors to this thread are anxious to point out, as a point of information for fellow travellers, the apparent incongruity of this appointment. Some are giving him the benefit of the doubt, some are incredulous, but bottom line there will be few in the UK that didn't do a double take when they heard that the boss of Dixons was going to Apple. This from the UK's Daily Telegraph: "While Browett and Dixons are largely unknown in the US, in Britain many reacted to the news with surprise, citing the retailer's poor public image."

I hope I've given you some context on this Aristotle so you can better understand the thread comments above. None of it had to do with what country one is from and your bizarre accusation that people posting may not have actually been into the stores is rather strange. Let us know if you still don't get it though and we'll try again to guide you through this in an effort to prove these comments haven't been written by unrully Brits hell bent on pretending they've ever shopped in Dixons... (Probably one of the strangest of the conspiracy theories..) And when you drop us a line, just tell me what made you call yourself Aristotle as that just doesn't seem to be a good fit either...
 
I've only heard stories from my marketing buddies, but just to echo the article this guy is the real deal.

I hope he retains his hands-on approach.
 
John Browett's appointment to raise the Customer Services bar.

When I read about this appointment, and that 'JB' had been recruited from Dixons, I had some concern.

My reasons for this is because of my personal experience of working for the company 20 years ago, and service I and friends and family have received over the past few years.

My overall impressions, with input from all the above, lead me to conclude that the level of service both in sales and service are so bad, that I now advise strongly never to purchase anything from one of the Dixon's group of companies (including Dixons, Currys, and PC World). For example, product knowledge, salesmanship, after-sales service, and the way the staff generally deal with customers are probably the worst on the British High Street.

I would always advise going to department store called John Lewis, as their service is second only to Apple in Great Britain.

From my own personal experience, Apple's Customer Service is the best that it could be.

Mart


Mac Book pro17, Apple TV 1 & 2, Mac Pro 2010, iphone, various iPods, and of course iPad.
 
I have no experience with his previous company but I doubt he'll change much at apple especially at first. Besides companies like the one he worked for sound like the type that will squeeze every penny out of a customer whereas if you walk into an apple retail store and you want a more expensive computer I have seen the sales people talk the customer into a cheaper one. Completely different type of company and mindset he's coming to
 
Everyone from the UK here pretty much agreed.
DSG bad, John Lewis good. Sooner they disappear from the high street the better.Maybe there weren't too many other
European alternatives to choose from or is Cook being naive? Seriously underwhelmed.
 
There was a time...

when on the front page of MacRumors you would find almost every day a new exciting technological advancement of Apple: the shift from PowerPC, a new iPod, iPad, iPhone....

Today, we need to content ourselves with news of hiring of corporate VIPs in marketing, sales etc.

Where is the innovation?

Ah, we miss you Steve!
 
Why does everyone automatically doubt Tim Cook's ability to pick the right guy for the job? Do you think Tim Cook was unaware of the state of Dixon's?

Steve Jobs wouldn't pick Tim Cook to take over if he had even the slightest thought Cook would be stupid enough to make a rookie mistake like that.
 
Why does everyone automatically doubt Tim Cook's ability to pick the right guy for the job? Do you think Tim Cook was unaware of the state of Dixon's?

They automatically assume he sucks because he failed to make Dixons a place they wanted to shop. The fault is assuming that he was trying to. It is easy to think someone is incompetent when in actuality they are just trying to do something different. He may or may not suck, too early to say.
 
Where to begin...

Wow, this thread is all over the place. I became so compelled to chime in that I went and signed up on here, and I want to address the original topic, sorta...

As a former Apple retail employee I can say definitively that outside hiring for leadership/management in its many forms is nothing new for them. Ever heard anyone joke about GAPple? The problem with this, and I would wager this problem persists up to the highest level, is that these outside acquisitions often don't know jack about Apple's culture, as was noted about the other somewhat recent outside hire to VP. I've seen managers get hired from GAP or Banana Republic or something else utterly un-technologically oriented and they don't own a single Apple product. They may (or may not) be great at management functions, or as someone else noted, they might just smile real pretty in their interview, but it doesn't mean they have any business working for the company. Ron Johnson was Apple through and through, and I know myself and plenty of others were shocked and disappointed to see him go. The best thing Apple can do is promote from within, even if it doesn't always make the most sense on paper, because the culture is one of the best things this company has going for them. They need to preserve it in the face of massive growth and the loss of a leader.
 
Everyone from the UK here pretty much agreed.
DSG bad, John Lewis good. Sooner they disappear from the high street the better.Maybe there weren't too many other
European alternatives to choose from or is Cook being naive? Seriously underwhelmed.

When John Lewis starts selling the size of range of products across the board that Dixons Retail stores start selling, then come back and talk about their product knowledge, its not hard to work the "digital imaging" section when your range consists of 10 cameras, 5 SLRs and 7 camcorders...

For all the hate from the UK internet presence here for Dixons, its funny how Best Buy, the biggest electrical retailer in the world, came and went in a matter of months here.

Just to fix some misinformation posted numerous times on here, Dixons (the high street store) STILL EXISTS. They simply rebranded to Currys.Digital. They had a pretty extensive, though obviously ineffective, advertising campaign telling everyone in the UK about it. So DIXONS RETAIL are the parent company that owns Dixons.co.uk, dixonstravel.co.uk, Currys.Digital / PC World / Currys (all high street) and Dixons Travel (airport stores) as well as all the European bodies that someone posted earlier.

If I want to talk about cache sizes and exact sensor sizes, I wont go into a high street store (John Lewis, Dixons or anybody) I would search the internet. They are there to buy stuff from, if it suits your situation. Peoples expectations of some teenager in a uniform straight out of college or school, being paid a pittance is all a bit much here imo, and pretty typical of a minority forum dwelling geek community.
 
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Corporate America would never allow large, main stream companies to operate as a partnership in the same way John Lewis does. Wall Street would have a fit!
 
You know that he does not respond to all emails. He responds to some, just not yours.

I was referring to the group of individuals whose sole occupation at Apple is the interception of all fan mail sent to the CEO, and their subsequent return of gracious, yet terribly vague replies.

Ironically, my initial post was as vague and open to criticism as the e-mail I choose to call out.

edit: I did try to appreciate your attempted quip. Unfortunately, upon reading your signature, everything you had written suddenly seemed intellectually void, forced, and superficial.
 
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