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Apple's New U.S. Chip Factory to Produce AI Servers With High-End M5 Chips
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How long is Cook’s Apple going to keep up this Apple Intelligence charade? There’s really no there there - sooner or later the gig will be up and the market is not going to be too kind about it
Foxconn?
The same company that was going to build chip factory elsewhere in the US and then promptly took off?
That Foxcon?
The same company that was going to build chip factory elsewhere in the US and then promptly took off?
That Foxcon?
Exactly, they are smart though: only talking about servers. Because they can’t assemble customer products on US soil. And if this server thing turns out to be a bust (be sure Apple Intelligence is a joke at the moment) , no one will care.
But, seriously, this applies to every other LLM/GPT out there. And not a single one can be fully trusted (e.g., that they will not hallucinate), so a human must check whatever these systems generate! They can’t be used for automations, as they can’t run “unattended”.
The future of AI is not in LLMs. I don’t think Apple should waste a dime or a split second on this sh*t, even if there is pressure on the market.
Forgive me for not believing a word of this story.
First of all, $500 billion would build 50 chip plants of this size, and I can't imagine how many "training academies" could be included in that number. Lots. And "plans" to spend $500 billion, are no more than that. There's no commitment, except maybe the $10 billion for the plant, assuming they're footing the entire bill, which I doubt. So, I think this a random Very Big Number that's meaningless in reality.
Also, this plant could never have come out of any recent negotiation. These plants take 3 or four years to plan, build, and fit with equipment, so there's absolutely no way that they'd be in production next year unless they started planing it 2 or 3 years ago.
I think we'll see more of this sort of thing. The chips act in '21 put a lot of these plants on the drawing board, and Trump is going to try to take credit for every one.
First of all, $500 billion would build 50 chip plants of this size, and I can't imagine how many "training academies" could be included in that number. Lots. And "plans" to spend $500 billion, are no more than that. There's no commitment, except maybe the $10 billion for the plant, assuming they're footing the entire bill, which I doubt. So, I think this a random Very Big Number that's meaningless in reality.
Also, this plant could never have come out of any recent negotiation. These plants take 3 or four years to plan, build, and fit with equipment, so there's absolutely no way that they'd be in production next year unless they started planing it 2 or 3 years ago.
I think we'll see more of this sort of thing. The chips act in '21 put a lot of these plants on the drawing board, and Trump is going to try to take credit for every one.
If they do it this way, i'd be very leery as Apple has never stuck to anything like that.
Defects are a result of process, training, and management. We have American workers putting rockets in space.
'chip plant' is more click bait than the story here. If actually follow the link to Kuo's story there is no 'chip plant'. There is a server assembly plant. However, Kuo's recycling of previous link is about M5 chips. So the 'chip plant' might have been an attempt to focus on the chips (which was the somewhat stale 'news') as opposed to a server assembly plant. There is substantive no coupling of $500B to the plant either. What doing here is interwining old news with new news to make it look have a substantively new article to present.
It is more like the 'telephone game' where get the impact of what is usually 10-20 repeating of the story in just one hop.
P.S. can't wait for this hodgepoge of fact to get hooverd up into the next round of AI LLM models.
The US still manufactures lots of products, but employment in that sector has declined significantly thanks to technology. I’d expect more automation and fewer jobs than in Apple’s past US endeavors.
Do they have new staff at MacRumors lately? They didn’t used to be this bad…. This is the 2nd misleading headline today.
Once a country is deindustrialized, it’s extremely hard to re industrialize and start manufacturing complex products again. All of the infrastructure, people, transport. It costs huge amounts of money and time. And all the while another developing country is doing that anyway and with much much cheaper labour.
Unless there is a war, manufacturing will always go to the country that can do it cheapest at the required standard.
But assembly of products is possible. You can ship everything in, and quickly train people or use robotics to construct from those parts.
RISC processors like the M-series chips resemble GPU's more than complex CPUs, so they should be OK. Apple is probably focussing more on energy usage per cycle rather than raw performance per square meter anyway.
Sure would be nice if the article was written in a way that commenters could spend more time appreciating the investment being made domestically, rather than criticizing the writing of the article itself.