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Apple's Newest Mac Pro Turns Four Years Old Today
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Indeed and if you go with a fully maxed out Late PowerMac G5 is still a powerful machine.
Sure, why not. As long as the design doesn't compromise performance or features. It's not a laptop and doesn't need be as thin as possible, a mistake they made with the iMac.
1. Tim Cook in charge ( should have been Forstall )
2. "You can't open your old project files" in Final Cut Pro X. That was Apple's first hint that Pros should kindly go away please. I mean c'mon. Name another piece of software that couldn't open the previous version of it's own files.
I agree, but upgrading the internals every year or so like other vendors do seems beyond them.
Same goes for the Mini.
They certainly have the money but obviously just don't give a ****.
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Yep, mine I think are 13 years or older. I love them. Still a workhorse after all these years. That's why I have hard time considering and iMac. I think the Mac Pro is a better deal on the long run since I can keep displays for years to come.
The matte screen is also a huge plus. Every time I use one of the glossy displays I hate it due all the glare.
Wouldn't be surprised to see module Mac Pro pre-orders start Dec 2019, starting at $9,999 and scaling to $25,000
Some PCs sell for $30,000-50,000.
There is a market for high-end creative - remember million dollar SGI workstations?!
Heh, wonder if
will allow the (i)Mac Pro to be used as a monitor for the mMP 
Frankly, a maxed out 2013 Mac Pro handles 4K timelines from 4K to 6K sources fantastically.
And even 8K timelines are not-a-problem w/ the addition on a $6,500 card via external TB enclosure.
But need to upgrade thermal paste, run Mac Fan Control, lay tube on its side, and point a fan at the bottom.
May be a good time for Indies/penny-pinchers/one-man-bands to buy a new 2013 Mac Pro w/ D700s!
Then upgrade the rest themselves for quarters on the dollars.
$3,519.00 brand new from Apple - minimum w/ 1TB + D700s
$700 for 12-core xeon
$400 for 64GB
$5 Arctic Silver thermal paste
$1 bottle 91% or higher alcohol
$40 bamboo cradle
$35 small desk fan
$0 Mac Fan Control app
Around $4,700 gets a maxed out trashcan!
Fully supported by
and third party apps.Add $600 for 128GB RAM
And if the dual D700s and 12GB of VRAM isn't enough...
Then looking into get one, two, or three Vega 64 eGPUs next spring!
With the release of 16GB Vega cards, one could be sitting on 60GB VRAM and five GPUS
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Any particular reason why they are stating that the Mac Mini hasn't been updated in 1,150 days instead of simply saying that it's been over 3 years?
Over 3 years sounds like a longer time period than 1,150 days.
Must be journalistic thing.
Over 3 years sounds like a longer time period than 1,150 days.
Must be journalistic thing.
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I am a fan of Macs. I am neutral about MACs and MAC products.
Would external GPUs run efficiently with no bottleneck over Thunderbolt 2 ports compared to Thunderbolt 3 on current Macs?Wouldn't be surprised to see module Mac Pro re-orders start Dec 2019, starting at $9,999 and scaling to $25,000
Some PCs sell for $30,000-50,000.
There is a market for high-end creative - remember million dollar SGI workstations?!
Heh, wonder if
Frankly, a maxed out 2013 Mac Pro handles 4K timelines from 4K to 6K sources fantastically.
And even 8K timelines are not-a-problem w/ the addition on a $6,500 card via external TB enclosure.
But need to upgrade thermal paste, run Mac Fan Control, lay tube on its side, and point a fan at the bottom.
May be a good time for Indies/penny-pinchers/one-man-bands to buy a new 2013 Mac Pro w/ D700s!
Then upgrade the rest themselves for quarters on the dollars.
$3,519.00 brand new from Apple - minimum w/ 1TB + D700s
$700 for 12-core xeon
$400 for 64GB
$5 Arctic Silver thermal paste
$1 bottle 91% or higher alcohol
$40 bamboo cradle
$35 small desk fan
$0 Mac Fan Control app
Around $4,700 gets a maxed out trashcan!
Fully supported by
Add $600 for 128GB RAM
And if the dual D700s and 12GB of VRAM isn't enough...
Then looking into get one, two, or three Vega 64 eGPUs next spring!
With the release of 16GB Vega cards, one could be sitting on 60GB VRAM and five GPUS
Sure, if you want a processor that is 4 years (generations) behind. Core count isn't everything, there also are new technologies that are introduced into chips that make instructions more efficient, and then higher frequencies at the same time. Not to mention slower RAM ... bus speeds ... yeah its just not worth it.Wouldn't be surprised to see module Mac Pro re-orders start Dec 2019, starting at $9,999 and scaling to $25,000
Some PCs sell for $30,000-50,000.
There is a market for high-end creative - remember million dollar SGI workstations?!
Heh, wonder if
Frankly, a maxed out 2013 Mac Pro handles 4K timelines from 4K to 6K sources fantastically.
And even 8K timelines are not-a-problem w/ the addition on a $6,500 card via external TB enclosure.
But need to upgrade thermal paste, run Mac Fan Control, lay tube on its side, and point a fan at the bottom.
May be a good time for Indies/penny-pinchers/one-man-bands to buy a new 2013 Mac Pro w/ D700s!
Then upgrade the rest themselves for quarters on the dollars.
$3,519.00 brand new from Apple - minimum w/ 1TB + D700s
$700 for 12-core xeon
$400 for 64GB
$5 Arctic Silver thermal paste
$1 bottle 91% or higher alcohol
$40 bamboo cradle
$35 small desk fan
$0 Mac Fan Control app
Around $4,700 gets a maxed out trashcan!
Fully supported by
Add $600 for 128GB RAM
And if the dual D700s and 12GB of VRAM isn't enough...
Then looking into get one, two, or three Vega 64 eGPUs next spring!
With the release of 16GB Vega cards, one could be sitting on 60GB VRAM and five GPUS
If this was sarcastic, I would point out that you forgot your <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags.
Today marks the fourth anniversary of Apple last updating the Mac Pro.
The second-generation Mac Pro was released on December 19, 2013 for $2,999 and up, and it remains the current model despite having at least four year old hardware.
That hardware includes up to a 12-core Intel Xeon E5 processor, 64GB of ECC RAM, 1TB of SSD storage, and dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs, with prices topping out at $6,999.
The lack of a Mac Pro refresh in several years generated concerns that Apple was less focused on professional users, eventually prompting the company to respond.
Specifically, in April, Apple took the rare step of revealing it is working on an all-new Mac Pro with a modular design, while a high-end iMac Pro was released earlier this month.
Apple briefly reiterated that promise at the bottom of its press release about iMac Pro availability last week, noting that the new Mac Pro will be not only upgradeable, but also a high-performance, high-throughput system.Apple hasn't provided any additional details, including tech specs or a release date, but fingers are crossed for a 2018 launch. As we discussed in our story last week, Apple could return to a similar design as the 2006 to 2012 tower Mac Pro, but its exact definition of modular remains to be seen.
Apple still hasn't provided any word about when if ever we can expect a new Mac mini, which hasn't been updated in over 1,150 days, according to the MacRumors Buyer's Guide. The current Mac mini launched in October 2014.
Article Link: Apple's Newest Mac Pro Turns Four Years Old Today
We've had three MP6,1 in our office starting back in 2013 and early 2014. One being a 6-core and the others 12-core. All three have 64 GB RAM and 1TB SSD.
They continue to provide a solid basis for getting our work done. None have had any hardware issues at all. They simply and quietly sit in the background responding nicely to what's requested of them.
These MP6,1 machines have been the nicest, quietest, robust, reliable Mac workstations we've ever owned.
Today, they continue to deliver regardless of their age and older technology.
We like the fact that these MP6,1 machines sit in the background and hang all their wires out the back and are unseen as they go off to connect to our external media units.
We connect all three with Thunderbolt Bridge and observe 600 to 700 MB/s between the MP6,1s with this connection. Thus the need for an expensive 10GbE solution was never something we had to consider.
We hang all our storage off one of the 12-core MP6,1s and it's capable of handling the file server duties as well as Project production work with ease.
These small delightful machines will continue to purr along and when and if Apple surfaces with a new Mac Pro in 2018 or 2019 or whenever we shall obviously look and consider it with the expectation that it will perform well over a 5 to 7 year timeframe without hardware issues.
No doubt a higher performing Mac Pro will be necessary for 8K and upwards that will become pervasive in years to come.
In the meantime we have decided we will have the new iMac Pro (close to being maxed out) to complement our 3 MP6,1s as a 'bridging' strategy for at least 1 year or maybe even 2 yrs. We want Apple to get the new Mac Pro designed correctly and if that means waiting, then so be it.
Maybe you're right – we'll see what happens. At least they seem to talk about it being modular (whatever that means).
Maybe you're right too, we'll see. But I'm not saying it will be a new Mac Pro with the same approach as the old ones. Just that they have been building modular computers before, so it's nothing new for Apple in that sense.
And I have a hex core Mac Pro from 2010 too – very nice machine still (for my needs).
I still like the design to be honest ... yet I'm not a Pro Mac user. In about a year or two I'll actually purchase one because what I'll be doing with compiling or audio composition by then will be child's play for the machine. Besides ... I missed out on the PowerMac G4 Cube and the Sunflower iMac being of any use today.
This nMacPro should be discontinued and removed from all Apple Stores from sale/display the moment the iMac Pro comes in.
I'd say of the list of bad decisions, removing a anti-glare treatments from the screens was the worst. What did it gain for Apple, $30 less cost to make a computer? The anti-glare could not cost much as EVERY TV set has this even at the low end.
I'd love to see the requirements for the device. They designed themselves into a corner, which is hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
I don't pay close attention to the GPU market, but heat dissipation and GPUs have gone together since at least the 3dfx days. In fact, hardware guy was crowing about the thermal core design of the Mac Pro. I suppose that thermal core is now considered a core dump?
I don't pay close attention to the GPU market, but heat dissipation and GPUs have gone together since at least the 3dfx days. In fact, hardware guy was crowing about the thermal core design of the Mac Pro. I suppose that thermal core is now considered a core dump?
Me too. Im hoping to grab one to use as a media server at home once they release the fabled "modular" Mac Pro, and the prices of these drop a bit. Being silent and having no lights at all on the front, it's perfect for that. Plus of course it's aggressively stealthy looks won't offend my delicate sensibilities in that setting.
In the real world - where I live and work - these are still great machines. I've got 4 here, one for a video editor, one for an art director, and two as file servers. They never skip a beat. I used one myself for a while, and really miss it's smooth potency. We never plug anything more than a USB stick, external hard drive or ThunderBolt RAID interface into them, and never will. But I can understand their limitations for those who need to go further than that.
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Apple Pencil. Airpods. Apple Watch. All excellent products. I feel Apple is no less innovative than before. They just aren’t innovating in areas you particularly care for.
Thermals are fine for the dual GPUs used as two sides of the triangle inside the cylinder.
But that triangular design was not usable with the “one, big 250 Watt (nVIDIA!) video card” model that ended up being what some users required. Apple thought a “two, smaller Radeon video card” solution was the way forward, and they were wrong.
The design didn’t allow them to pivot to the one big GPU requirement.
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4 years is not 4 Xeon generations. Unless your application(s) use AVX512 instructions, the 8-core e5-1680v2 that’s in the cylinder is on par with the fastest 8-core Xeon currently shipping, is it not?
Steve Jobs disagrees with you. I think he was in the best position to know what Apple needed for the next decade. Looking at the success of Cook’s Apple, it seems he was right.
I know there were those weird reports that Forstall wanted to be CEO, but he’s a software guy. I never bought the story that anyone considered him CEO material, including Forstall himself.