It’s been years since the Surface has been relevant, so I doubt that’s it 🤣
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Apple's OLED MacBook Pro Launch Moves Closer With Panel Production
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Neither text readability nor burn-in has been a problem for the tandem OLEDs on the iPad Pros. I would assume that these new OLEDs for the MBP would be at least as good.
It was the previous design of MBP that prioritized thinness at the expense of functionality and performance. Apple did an about face on the current designs. The rumors now are for a design that keeps most of the functionality but adds a little more lightness to the case. They will be using M6-series processors on a 2nm process node which should give full performance while producing less heat and using less battery.
Apple has not been afraid of doing thicker designs of late in the pursuit of functionality. A careful refinement of that design that ends of being a little thinner is not something to fear.
“does not expect the MacBook Air to adopt the (OLED) technology until 2028 at the earliest.”
From the second paragraph of the article.
“Neural engineering” is not an Apple-specific marketing term. These processors work together in a neural network to do AI processing. Those networks have some of the same characteristics of networks of biological neurons, thus the name.
When they create a human-like thinking chip or robot, you might find yourself defending that neural technology, or your Apple device could become akin to a human or human brain. There will never be the same characteristics of a neural network as found in the human brain. Other animals lack the capability for complex thought as humans do.
No one ever said it was equivalent. I’m sorry if it bugs you but this is an industry term that is used because of how networks of processors interact in ways that are similar to how networks of neurons interact. It makes no claim that this is human-like thinking. You make a distinction for animals and animals also have neurons that interact in broadly similar ways to these chips.
Right, OLED, but my question is whether the Air will move to mini-LED once the Pro is on OLED? Or will the Air just skip mini-LED entirely?
It's possible that Apple will put touch screens on all of their computers, but that's not what you're talking about.
You're picturing a dystopian future where the Thought Police can remotely blow up your brains if you even imagine using your trackpad instead of greasing your screen with cheetos dust fingertips.
I'm pretty sure you're gonna be able to disable the touch screen or just... don't use it maybe? Gee, this is 1000% a non-problem.
I'll be curious to see how good it looks. I have an M1 MAX 16" MBP and every time I use that laptop I am amazed at how beautiful its display is. 75% of the time I use Lenovo Thinkpads for work. I also have two 32" Alienware OLED 4K monitors connected to a Dell Micro optiplex that I use for work. And I still think the MBP display is better than those OLED screens.
And I second the notion....no touch screen for me. Who wants smudgy fingerprints all over their beautiful display?
And I second the notion....no touch screen for me. Who wants smudgy fingerprints all over their beautiful display?
Yea, I have two Alienware 32" 4K OLED desktop monitors and every four hours of use a message pops up on the display telling me its time to do a pixel refresh to help prevent burn-in. As I use them on my work Desktop computer, its kind of annoying and happens at the most inconvenient times. And its about a 8-10 minute process.
I'm torn on your comment, I want to like because I agree with the OLED part, but I also disagree with the touch screen. I don't want a touch screen on my laptop. I'm sure I'll be able to turn it off, but if the UI of MacOS is catering to touch it will effect the usability. I'd rather the mac design stay centered around Keyboard and Mouse/trackpad.
Problem is I don't like having my dock auto hide. I like it to stay persistent on the screen, so now to cater to the display tech I have to change how I use the computer. I get that OLED has come a long way in the sense that they have gotten good at hiding burn in, but I really don't want to have it in the back of my mind all the time when using a computer. It's just not worth it. I'd rather they stick with the same displays.
LCD can have dead pixels, that can also be at the back of your mind. Does that mean you won’t use LCD displays as well.
CRT had issues too. At the end of the day most people use iPhones or Android devices with OLED for 3-6 years with little issue. Granted there maybe a few number of defective displays with burn-in but it’s no more or less than a LCD either having or developing a dead pixel(s) in the future.
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Dead pixels are totally different. They generally don't just appear, and if they do it's just a bad display. It isn't something that is caused by the way I use the computer, which is the issue with OLED.
CRT's could have burn in too, yes. But that's why I like LCD's as they improved that concern. I will admit I do have an iPhone 12 Pro that I've had since launch and haven't noticed any issues with it yet, but I also don't just leave it on a static display all the time. When I open apps and things I've noticed a lot that the static elements get inverted somewhat often, which would work to counter the burn in for them. I also don't run the screen at max brightness very often which does accelerate things. So yes, it is possible to use it in a way that minimizes the issue, but it's much easier to do on my phone or TV where static elements are less likely, or the screen isn't on as long vs a computer that I may use all day with a static element sitting in one spot.
Interesting, I don't think I've gone less than 4 years on any laptop before. I think 5 years was the shortest. My first laptop was a Sony Vaio in 2001. Then late 2006 Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro > early 2013 bought a mid 2012 macbook Pro > M2 Max Macbook Pro Early 2023. I've only had 4 laptops since 2001 and I am guessing I'll keep the M2 Max at least 6 years before I feel the need for an upgrade unless it breaks.
Isn’t the time, battery, wifi and cellular info constantly display with the exception while watching a video in full screen or reading something in full screen mode.
Even human eyes if staring at a buggy object will leave a temporary image retention and if staring at the sun would certainly make it permanent or blind the individual.
How many people are actually cranking up the brightness on their devices to 100% majority of the time. While your concerns are valid, it may come across as overblown.
I have used LCD and OLED and never have I ever cranked the brightness to 100%, it hurts my eyes but that is just me.
If touch is an optional add on like nano texture, that would be fine with me. I’d opt for a less expensive model without touch since I don’t see any use for such a feature, and I cannot stand fingerprints on my MacBook screens.
One thing I’m hopeful for is that the 16” may get thinner and lighter—if it’s maybe .3-.5 pounds lighter and especially thinner than the current model, I might finally consider it over the 14”.
One thing I’m hopeful for is that the 16” may get thinner and lighter—if it’s maybe .3-.5 pounds lighter and especially thinner than the current model, I might finally consider it over the 14”.
Consider how people use phones. Check an email here, make a call there. Play a couple mobile games for a bit. Most phones are not left with the display on for 8 or more hours a day. It's the length of 'on' time that can cause the burn in, lesser so the frequency where the screen can rest.
Not really, nowadays. They use their phones to pay for everything. Perhaps not in the US (or Canada), here we hardly use paper money or coins anymore—or write cheques!
Youngsters do, even in China, maybe everyone in China.
