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Apple's Phil Schiller at Intel Developer Forum, Viiv Contest
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rdowns said:
Sure, it's only the notebook market, but that's still a hell of a jump in notebook market share...
ViiV is marketing crock for something that Intel does not have, which is heat reduction.
AMD will has access to heat-reduction companies and technologies that are spurning Intel. ntel will be way behind the heat curve at 65mm. I expect Apple to add AMD to the mix within 12 months.
AMD will has access to heat-reduction companies and technologies that are spurning Intel. ntel will be way behind the heat curve at 65mm. I expect Apple to add AMD to the mix within 12 months.
And what's wrong with...
...using a format that "plays for sure" on more than 90% of the computers out there?jhero said:
Timothy Flint said:
You're using a fictional character in a trashy novel as the basis of an argument? May as well use Wikipedia!
For the whingers,
1) Apple have released Core 2 Duo machines - see iMac and MacPro. Both use Core architecture chips.
2) The Conroe Core 2 Duo chip is way hotter than even the G5 used in previous iMacs. There's no way Apple would put it in an iMac. Get over it. The performance difference between the desktop Conroe and mobile Merom part is barely perceptible in benchmarks never mind real world usage.
3) Dell, HP etc may have announced machines but nobody is actually shipping them yet. Apple are obviously being conservative and don't want to kill sales of their current laptops by sticking laptops on their site you can't actually buy for a month. How much do you want to bet Apple will announce them for immediate sale at about the same time Dell actually gets to ship product?
aegisdesign said:
That makes an awful lot of sense. If you want a laptop now, get a Core Duo MB or MBP. If you want a Core 2 Duo laptop, wait until the chips are actually available and laptops are ready to ship. No point in denying laptops to people who need them now.
No VIIV Apples
From what I heard, Intel has exclusivity with Microsoft on the VIIV platform. Which is why some of the video-related things happening at my work won't be available for the Mac (sucks when you work on Macs all day long and your company caters more to Windoze). Perhaps that'll change if contracts run out.
PS That also mean those same experiences will not work on Core Duos, so Parallels and Boot Camp are out as well.
From what I heard, Intel has exclusivity with Microsoft on the VIIV platform. Which is why some of the video-related things happening at my work won't be available for the Mac (sucks when you work on Macs all day long and your company caters more to Windoze). Perhaps that'll change if contracts run out.
PS That also mean those same experiences will not work on Core Duos, so Parallels and Boot Camp are out as well.
generik said:What a stupid idiot, why use mobile chips in desktops and not use any for laptops?!
The performance advantage of one over the other is nearly negligible at the same clock speed. TDP was a bit higher in the C2D. When the performance advantage is impossible to ignore, or the TDP comes down, that's when you'll get a new processor in the laptop.
Intel's C2D is the fastest ramp-up but it's a bit too fast for Apple to react.MacinDoc said:Quad core by November?
So, Phil, if the ramp-up of Intel's C2Ds has been the fastest in history, where are the new MBPs?
Overall, I'm still confused over what is going on in Apple's mind as to not releasing C2D to the MacBook/Pro line after what Otellini said today. Yesterday's keynote said nothing about the mobile processors (either that or they kept their mouths shut)
. All of it went towards dual-core (power hungry) desktop processors and not a single word of mobile processors (except the Nehalem). From that perspective, Meroms still remain the mobile standard of processors unless something new comes up.Lack of moaning is only interim
Most people are still posting in the Photokina thread. But don't worry, we'll all be heading this way soon!
mrdice87 said:
Most people are still posting in the Photokina thread. But don't worry, we'll all be heading this way soon!
Timothy Flint said:
At the risk of going seriously off-topic:
The cause of Nimrod being used as an insult is that, allegedly, it's a relatively obscure word and was used in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Nimrod just means "Hunter". Bugs points at Elmer Fudd who is hunting "wabbits" in one cartoon and exclaims "Poor little Nimrod". Since then it's been commonly used to mean "Idiot", when the authors almost certainly meant "Hunter".
Beautiful...
R303blue said:
VIIV is both software and a hardware platform. The software part only runs on Windows.
Check the facts, please
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2860790/
There are reports right here in Macrumors that people have been receiving C2D laptops from other vendors...aegisdesign said:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2860790/
I found two Macs at IDF (but both were running XP)
In a fairly thorough walk through the exhibit hall at Moscone West I noticed only two Apples in exhibits.
Both of them had a [Start] button at the lower left of the screen
One was an Imac in an ambulance, running a Windows emergency medical application through Parallels.
The other was a Mini in one of the VMware booths, running XP under OS Ex VMware. (And yes, it's "Oh Ess Ex" at IDF - nobody thinks that it's the version after "OS 9".)
In a fairly thorough walk through the exhibit hall at Moscone West I noticed only two Apples in exhibits.
Both of them had a [Start] button at the lower left of the screen
One was an Imac in an ambulance, running a Windows emergency medical application through Parallels.
The other was a Mini in one of the VMware booths, running XP under OS Ex VMware. (And yes, it's "Oh Ess Ex" at IDF - nobody thinks that it's the version after "OS 9".)
