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Apple's Phone Revealed?
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http://thinksecret.com/news/0609phone.html
Uh oh, if ThinkSecret says MWSF it probably wont happen til WWDC '09.
Uh oh, if ThinkSecret says MWSF it probably wont happen til WWDC '09.
treblah said:http://thinksecret.com/news/0609phone.html
Uh oh, if ThinkSecret says MWSF it probably wont happen til WWDC '09.
Nah, I think they are still pretty reliable. MWSF should be big
I like the nano-style phone over the 5G style iPhone. But then again, the 5G iPod always seemed ugly and out of perportion to me.Pieira said:
*yawn* As long as I have a phone that can sync with my mac, I'll be a happy camper. Whether that means upgrading to Leapord so my phone is supported in iSync, or just buying a new phone (both which I want to get), I just want that flippin sync to happen!
Oh, and if the phone supported wifi too, I'd be in heaven. Then I'd get amazing reception, even at my best friends' house!
(where no body else can get reception)
Well, that's a shame. Candybar phones are totally impractical for city living. They pick up every bit of train, bus, firetruck, pedestrian conversation and traffic noise anywhere near you. Guess I'll be sticking with my RAZR. This is hugely disappointing.
theFUZZYpickle said:
I'm stunned that no one commented on how funny this quote was. =)
I know it's not because of the maturity level around here.
I mean, every thread for the last two years has had a stupid "Powerbook G5 next Tuesday" post.
Maybe the average MR member isn't old enough to know about drunk dialing?
Who knows, the point is, thanks for the laugh. Far too many people around here take themselves and their opinions far too seriously!
Nothing much to say about the iPhone. It's all been said already, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, times.
WTW said:
I don't own a ROKR, but I assumed that you probably need to install some software that comes with it to get everything working, and after searching Apple's support for "iTunes Phone Driver", the first link appeared to confirm that. Oh, and BTW, this solves the mystery. The iTunes Phone Driver is referred to specifically in this note:
Mystery solved
Any doubts about this should be countered by the following:
1. Apple is not going to give two, current, pieces of software the same name.
2. Apple does not release drivers for unreleased, unannounced, products.
I don't think anyone's going to seriously contradict that.
I also read the FAQ, and the more I read it, the more it struck me that the probability is the nano messages actually point to iTunes for phones being built upon the same codebase as the "iTunes" in the nano firmware. This is a gut-feeling I know, but the messages in that firmware point to software that needs to know what the phone is doing. There was nothing specifically related to dialing etc. Of course, those desperate to see evidence of an "iPhone(tm not Apple)" will probably have a gut-feeling in the obvious direction. But think about it: Apple "rewrote" the OS for the nano (the original iPod firmware was licensed, IIRC), why wouldn't they take the iTunes for Mobile Phones code and extend it? It's right there! All they had to do was make the code that interfaces with the cellphone component smarter so it could work with or without one.
Maybe. I thought that version didn't run iTunes though.
with the way text messaging has taken off, if people had to flip that thing down everytime to get to the numbers and write a text, things could get hairy. those flip down things always seem fragile. If this were the phone I would have to see it in person first, as opposed to buying it immediately like I plan on doing.
here's my two cents on all this nonsense, I'm certain that Apple is coming out with the long expected phone, strong business cases can be made either way, phone or no phone, Apple's involvement in terms of carriers and so on but I'm not going to tread in that water. As a designer, me key interest in Apple is primarily centred around product design firstly and UI secondly. In terms of the mockup, I'm not sure of the credibility but it looks interesting, I do think though that if it is a 'slider', then it will take a form similar to most sliders today, Samsung, LG, etc where the entire top body slides up to reveal a key pad below, I don't think it will split at the wheel as has been suggested. Doing without a key pad is impossible for a number of reasons, not the least of which would be the need to type in extensions, access codes and so on, however, if apple can pull it off with some ingenious UI then I will eat my own words. I've just purchased my first slider phone, a Samsung 807 and I'm really happy with it except that I wish there were a lock on the sliding mechanism. The best phone I've ever owned was the Ericsson T28W which had a springloaded flip that was released at the push of a button and was an ingenious solution to the stupid design of so many 'candy-bar' style phones that constantly require locking and unlocking. If Apple can provide some sort of locking device on the slider to prevent it from opening/closing as you throw it in your bag, pocket, whatever then I'll certainly be pretty stoked......the rest of that super phone nonsense is for the birds, I want a phone that works really well as a phone, doesn't look rediculous, and has a decent weight to it, they need to ADD weight to most phones today, I can't help but feel that light equals cheap equals poor quality....carbon fibre, titanium and the exotic materials aside!!! One more thing, I don't care how cool the thing is, I'll still have my ipod, because it plays music very well, stores files very well and fits in my bag very nicely, I don't need a phone that does everything although I can understand that the market demands one.....
On a side note, if the market wants one thing that does everything well, then why haven't the likes of Sony, Samsung and so on produced a beautiful flat screen TV with a built in DVD player, reciever, WIFI connection, surround sound speakers and the lot......because people want to make there own decisions about which components to add/subtract, same goes with a phone, I don't object to carrying around an ipod AND a cell.....
On a side note, if the market wants one thing that does everything well, then why haven't the likes of Sony, Samsung and so on produced a beautiful flat screen TV with a built in DVD player, reciever, WIFI connection, surround sound speakers and the lot......because people want to make there own decisions about which components to add/subtract, same goes with a phone, I don't object to carrying around an ipod AND a cell.....
yeah, it's a ramble, my apologies....I think my brain has gone numb reading all this crazy speculation, I've become addicted!!!
proportion is pleasing to the eye
I think the Microsoft Zune will suffer the same fate as will this mockup will. The Zune screen is too big compare to the controls. The current iPod can have a bigger screen, but it will not be proportion to the control. Symmetry and proportion makes the iPod looks better than the Zune hands down. So whatever Apple makes, the control and screen should be proportional. I think the iPhone will look like it come from a person or team who understand industrial design and beauty, unlike many electronic devices out there that looks like ithey were designed by engineers with no taste .
Cinch
I think the Microsoft Zune will suffer the same fate as will this mockup will. The Zune screen is too big compare to the controls. The current iPod can have a bigger screen, but it will not be proportion to the control. Symmetry and proportion makes the iPod looks better than the Zune hands down. So whatever Apple makes, the control and screen should be proportional. I think the iPhone will look like it come from a person or team who understand industrial design and beauty, unlike many electronic devices out there that looks like ithey were designed by engineers with no taste
.Cinch
Cinch said:I think the Microsoft Zune will suffer the same fate as will this mockup will. The Zune screen is too big compare to the controls. The current iPod can have a bigger screen, but it will not be proportion to the control. Symmetry and proportion makes the iPod looks better than the Zune hands down. So whatever Apple makes, the control and screen should be proportional. I think the iPhone will look like it come from a person or team who understand industrial design and beauty, unlike many electronic devices out there that looks like ithey were designed by engineers with no taste
Cinch
I'm going to have to completely disagree, you think they should limit screen size based on the size of the controls, because it's more artful? and looks better? First of all, I don't see how having screen and controls of the same-ish size make anything look good, the Zune looks better than an iPod, mostly because it has a big screen! Now, the screen's resolution sucks but that's a different story.
A 70 inch TV with buttons that are half an inch big is not tastless engineering.
arn said:
The scene is a party. It's a strange mixture of people there, a few execs from some key suppliers, a number of people in Apple's legal department specializing in patents, a designer who works with Jonathan Ives, and a handful of others. There's no theme. Jobs just sent out the invite. "Time to mingle" it said cryptically, printed on glossy card over a picture of some pipes and a magnifying glass.
Steve looks over at Phil. "Is this going to work?"
Phil grins nervously. "It's got to. We've tried everything else. It's going to be a slow process, but, well..."
He walks into the crowd. There's nervous excitement from the guests. And still some confusion. Why were we invited? Who are these people?
"Hi, I'm glad you could come, I'm Steve Jobs" says the master salesman. His audience looks flattered. "I just wanted, well, to have you around, a representative sample, I think, of everyone who works for me. Tom! Glad you could come. Jill! Good to see you. Hey, Frank! Hey, this is the third of the parties I've done, and we're doing more, but I want you to relax, tell me what you really think. Anyway, great of you to come."
The handshakes continue. The audience begins to breath easier. They're not there to be fired. They're there to give feedback, to let The Steve know what they think of Apple and how it can be improved. It's still Steve Jobs though. Nobody's sure they really want to bring forward their real complaints.
"Y'know" says Steve excitedly, "I'm not sure I should even be telling you this but I'm finding it hard to contain my excitement. Take a little look at this..."
And with that, Jobs pulls out a phone from his pocket. The designers recognize key aspects immediately, the case is carved from the usual block of material used to build prototypes. Their excitement is palpable as they realise they're seeing something quite remarkable. An Apple phone. It's beautiful. How did he get it built without them knowing about it? Well, it's Apple, could have been the thing Jon was working on the last few weeks.
"Mobile Me" says the display, with five bars of reception. "Now, please, keep this a secret, but this is where Apple's heading right now", explains Apple's savour. "It's a combination of a mobile phone and an iPod nano. It's awesome. I've been working directly with the designers on this. It's just great. I'm... so excited."
The audience can barely keep their excitement too. For the rest of the party, the phone is the star of the show.
...
"I'll get back to you in a moment" says Jobs putting down the phone. Sitting in his comfortable office, he's surprised by Phil barging in. "You've got to see this" exclaims Phil, "Got Safari up?"
"I told you, I only use Epiphany under GNOME now, it's much better" explains Steve. "Anyway, what's the deal?"
"Go to appleinsider.com. Look at the headline."
A few taps of the keys, and Steve smiles. "WORLD EXCLUSIVE" reports the infamous rumour site. "Steve Jobs Keeps Going On and On About Amazing New Phone".
"We better read it", says Steve, "It might be about the PDA, party seven saw that, and people are always assuming new PDA means new phone these days."
"No, no, it's the phone. I checked. They even mentioned the "Losing My Religion" ringtone"
"That makes it party three, right?" says Steve, excitedly. "Wow, I only played the ring tone towards the end, we can probably even eliminate quite a few people who left early."
"That's right, Steve. Now we need to add some more details. I have the list of attendees here. We need to break them up a little. We'll leak the MVNO thing to one group. Maybe the iPod nano with elongated screen look to another. Jon sent over another redesign, it looks completely different to the one at the party. Here"
Phil hands over the phone to Jobs, who looks at it carefully.
"Boy", exclaims Steve, "This thing's ugly. It looks like one of those photoshop mockups we keep seeing. It'll do though. Let's get this ball rolling. I can't wait to see what's on Macrumors next week. We'll find the leakers."
(Man, I'm almost afraid to post this one. Got to be the most cynical view I've posted, but at the same time, I'm really having difficulty with the whole iPhone deal.)
Cinch said:You cannot compare what I said to the 70inch TV. You and I both know that it is a ridiculous stretch. Be that as it may, the Zune looks better than the iPod? I'm not going to bite
Cinch
That's true, the whole 'looks better than an iPod' bit was a stretch, I just don't see the whole controls/screen size balance, i see the size of the controls as irrelevant, whatever.
Motorola's e690 isn't too far off of what I would think apple phone would look like...
http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/motorola_e690_pda_phone_photos_leaked.html
Edit: better pics here... http://board.phonehk.com/viewthread.php?tid=190533&extra=page%3D1
http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/motorola_e690_pda_phone_photos_leaked.html
Edit: better pics here... http://board.phonehk.com/viewthread.php?tid=190533&extra=page%3D1
rdrr said:
My G*d that is the sexiest phone I've ever seen.
I want one. Have to punch that up on Ebay.