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It's just cool to ridicule Apple these days.

It has little to do with Apple, rather it's the architect's design.

Also from reading the mayor's press release it's pretty clear he doesn't care much how it looks only that they are willing to keep their flagship store in SF.
 
I hope MacRumors has a shortcut for the phrase "Apple's Plans for __ Receiving Criticism", it would save you guys a lot of typing.
 
President Chiu? Turns out it's "Board of Supervisors President David Chiu". For a moment I thought the US had held a sneaky election and hadn't told the rest of us.
 
I walk by there fairly often. The existing building and plaza are pretty ugly.
 
Well, one may not like the fountain but that plaza is quite nice and it'd be a shame to loose it for a box.

On an architectural/engineering note the designer is an idiot that obviously doesn't take location into account because a huge glass wall with direct sunlight all day will turn that box into an oven. The PG&E bills in the summer and fall will probably cost more then their likely to sell in a month...

I can't help but think of a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass.:D
 
That is a truly ugly store design. I'm really surprised - Apple usually takes more care to blend into their surroundings.

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/1...store-has-unique-tiled-coming-soon-billboard/

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/02/photo-gallery-of-stunning-new-berlin-apple-store/

That's because those places wouldn't allow Apple to tear down the exterior. Of course they'll "blend in." The possible SF location they are being allowed to pretty much tear it down.

For the Barcelona store that just the outside wall you typically see during construction. Once they took that down its just like any other retail shop in that building.

The same applies to the Berlin store. They are merely taking over the inside of a 100 year old building.
 
You're aware that architects don't actually BUILD the things they design, right? Architecture and construction are two completely different things. It's not like Foster is strapping on a hard hat and building the thing. Once they design it they're done.

Your lack of knowledge of the architectural process is staggering.
 
The fountain was also designed as the centerpiece of the existing triangular plaza along Stockton Street, wrapped in the upward ripple of brick steps. Passersby stop, look, take photographs and smile.

Damn, that is an ugly fountain. Although it would be fascinating to look at, but more in the same way that a rock covered in fossils would be.
 
Guy is right, the proposed store looks pretty boring. I'm all for glass use, but that dead wall on one side.. ugly box. Apple can do better should have tried to save the fountain.

This. The huge blank cement wall isn't very interesting for pedestrians to walk past. Meanwhile the glass on the south-facing side is going to turn the building into an energy-hog during the summer.
 
I'm usually big on preserving urban artifacts (fountains, brick/stonework, etc.), but that fountain looks awful.

Apple should get a tax credit for removing it from the city streets.
 
beauty?

The fountain looks hideous.

The world and certainly SF is big enough for objects that you believe are without beauty. The fountain in my opinion is a great example of its time and should not be destroyed to make way for a bigger and unnecessary Apple flagship store especially with one a few block away.
 
The large windows will create huge air-conditioning bills? They will reduce heating bills ;) This is San Francisco.

"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco"
 
agree

I find Foster to be highly overrated. He designed the business school that I went to and it had been raining through the roof for more than 18 months. We are talking about a building that cost over £40m. He apparently doesn't believe in QA?

Here in NYC we have the ugly WTC tower with its 1950's tv antenna atop.
 
I think they should have had Jony Ive design it. It would look nice with black and white and a much more flat design.
 
Apple should charge them for getting rid of that fountain...never seen one look so hideous.
 
That fountain looks awesome. It will be a shame to displace it with another metal and glass retail box.

Eww... that's all I can say. It's truly sad when a retail structure looks better than what is supposedly a work of art, but in this case, I think it's true.
 
The fountain is an SF landmark

Ruth Asawa's Hyatt Fountain is an SF landmark. It's meant to be viewed up close. It is whimsical and it invites the viewer to stick around and look at it. I have seen many people doing just that over the years -- sitting on the steps and enjoying the fountain. On the fountain are hundreds of small images of people and places in SF circa 1972 when the fountain was made.

For more information about the fountain, go here: http://www.ruthasawa.com/art/pub7.html

The School of the Arts High School in SF was recently names for Ruth Asawa. Her work is on permanent display at the De Young Museum (in the base of the tower).

Ruth Asawa is a much-loved figure in SF, and Apple will either have to negotiate to move the fountain or find a way to put its store at the Hyatt Plaza and keep the fountain.

The thing is, the free-spirit SF hippie aesthetic of the 1970s and the sharp-edged techno aesthetic of Apple really don't mix. It will be hard to resolve this one.
 
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We're being asked to be concerned about the change in the plaza. So far, I can't find a photo of the existing plaza or plan views of the old or new plaza. So it is all very silly.
 
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