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Apple's efforts are comendable but they don't even understand the right to privacy. They say they believe in the right but its not something you believe in, its a god given, inalienable right and in the 4th amendment already. Its just a fact and annoys me they think its something you need to believe in to be true.

Not in Australia its not. "the right to privacy" should stick elsewhere, because not all countries have the 4th Amendment. It's only god, in the U.S
 
Apple is trying to market a disadvantage (data collection and analytics) as a feature (privacy). And they're exploiting people's paranoia to keep people in the walled garden. But there's holes in that garden wall that people voluntarily allow to compromise their "privacy". Apple can't protect you from yourself when you surf the web and use outside services like Facebook.

Look, everyone wanted technology to anticipate their needs and advise them on decisions. That takes data. Compare Apple Maps to Google Maps. Following is Apple's data about a diner. Not much better than an ancient Yellow Pages ad.

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(Below) Look what's achievable when you allow a service like Google to aggregate people's public habits. In addition to Apple's tech-less information, Google can suggest what time to visit. That is useful information.
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None of what you’re looking at requires privacy-intruding, personally identifiable data collection the way Google does it. Apple is on the right track minimising the remote collection of personally identifiable data by keeping data local to device and implementing differential privacy. The features will follow.
 
Apple is trying to market a disadvantage (data collection and analytics) as a feature (privacy). And they're exploiting people's paranoia to keep people in the walled garden. But there's holes in that garden wall that people voluntarily allow to compromise their "privacy". Apple can't protect you from yourself when you surf the web and use outside services like Facebook.

Look, everyone wanted technology to anticipate their needs and advise them on decisions. That takes data. Compare Apple Maps to Google Maps. Following is Apple's data about a diner. Not much better than an ancient Yellow Pages ad.

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(Below) Look what's achievable when you allow a service like Google to aggregate people's public habits. In addition to Apple's tech-less information, Google can suggest what time to visit. That is useful information.


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How else can info be useful without knowing someone's address ?

Even Apple has to to that with Maps. to give you the sliest meaningful info ... Would you rather Apple assigns an "UserID" just like Google ? Not any better ,,, but i'd rather have have a number assigned to be without revealing my personal info.

The other profiling, is not Apple or Google's fault, it's *our* fault for allowing this to be online.. The trouble is, we just want 'free' services, so we must accept the consequences by that.. Saying "company A" tracks us bad, is not gonna help you after you "voluntary" decided to give it up in the first place. Its never been about Apple or Google who tracks us worse
 
How else can info be useful without knowing someone's address ?

Even Apple has to to that with Maps. to give you the sliest meaningful info ... Would you rather Apple assigns an "UserID" just like Google ? Not any better ,,, but i'd rather have have a number assigned to be without revealing my personal info.

The other profiling, is not Apple or Google's fault, it's *our* fault for allowing this to be online.. The trouble is, we just want 'free' services, so we must accept the consequences by that.. Saying "company A" tracks us bad, is not gonna help you after you "voluntary" decided to give it up in the first place. Its never been about Apple or Google who tracks us worse

Did you respond to the wrong posting? I agree with everything you said.
 
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