I do not recall Apple making TCL displays... Again, I said reasonable, not low-cost.
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Apple's Pro Display XDR 2: Rumors, Features, and What to Expect
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I have the XDR and have no desire for it to have a built-in speakers or camera. I do have a desire for a higher refresh rate so that I can use it for gaming - right now when I play Counter Strike I use the MacBook screen since it's 120hz (I play via GeForce Now, which can get up to 240 FPS and easily hits that when you're on fiber).
I wish that the base screen was a bit less reflective, wish that the USB ports were powered even when my laptop isn't connected so I can do things like plug in my phone, and wish I could have multiple input ports so I can leave my Mac Mini hardwired but also easily plug in my macbook.
I wish that the base screen was a bit less reflective, wish that the USB ports were powered even when my laptop isn't connected so I can do things like plug in my phone, and wish I could have multiple input ports so I can leave my Mac Mini hardwired but also easily plug in my macbook.
This. It's absolutely INSANE to make a $6k monitor and have only one input.
If you're using a Mac mini or a Mac Studio, they don't have mic's built in. That would be one use-case scenario, right?
ya know, they have announced a new iphone *every november* for the last 16 years.... and https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
The electricity cord will be sold separately for $999.
I've been fine with my Pro Display XDR... Sure I'd like pro motion but I'm sure that will come in the next few years.
Yup. I've been pretty happy using my 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro's built-in display for about the past year and a half, but I've needed a larger display for months, and so I've been waiting on these to see whether they're decent. Seems we'll have to wait longer.
Part of me thinks these displays are mainly Apple dogfooding — building them for internal use at Apple Park rather than seriously trying to compete in a highly commoditized market. That would explain the strange blend of features (like with the ASD) and the lack of real effort to compete in the broader marketplace with the Pro Display XDR.
I don't mean to say that they are not good (I have 2x ASD and love them) but it's a low effort to gain marketshare if that's what they are after.
I don't mean to say that they are not good (I have 2x ASD and love them) but it's a low effort to gain marketshare if that's what they are after.
Designing displays initially for internal use sounds possible. I don't think Apple is trying to gain marketshare with these. I think that aside from wanting better-than-average displays for their own use, they wanted to make them available to people using Mac minis, Mac Pros, etc., for those who can afford them. As I understand it, Apple's displays don't play all that well, in some ways, with non-Macs.
apple has never made a monitor at a "reasonable" cost... as long as you dont want 5K, tons of excellent models to choose from.
They are NOT going to have 120 fps bro, and if they did, you'd never buy it because it would be incredibly expensive. And it would require a Thunderbolt 5 devise to connect.
The vast majority of those buying Apple monitors are NOT hard core obsessive gamers. That's not their market at all.
I personally would like a great 27" monitor, with Thunderbolt 5 connections and that can act as a decent hub. At a price I can afford. That's all.
I'm NOT buying the current ASD at $1600 plus tax. I'm waiting, maybe till hell freezes over, but I'm waiting.
The vast majority of those buying Apple monitors are NOT hard core obsessive gamers. That's not their market at all.
I personally would like a great 27" monitor, with Thunderbolt 5 connections and that can act as a decent hub. At a price I can afford. That's all.
I'm NOT buying the current ASD at $1600 plus tax. I'm waiting, maybe till hell freezes over, but I'm waiting.
I don't have to, the company pays for it and I put it in my home office
It should have modes from 60,75,120,144,240 Hz.
Sounds a bit like iPad Pros are only meant for gamers because of the 120Hz. But that certainly won't be the case! It's simply more fun to work at 120Hz than at 60Hz, if your eyes can tell the difference. I know that not everyone is immediately able to do that, at least when we talk about working on the desktop interface. It might be more noticeable in games, but I'm not interested in games.
It appears many here have no idea who the market is for the Pro Display XDR.
There are indeed many products that Apple could and should make. As you rightly say, a reasonably priced monitor for Mac Mini users would be good. In reality it's proof that they think more about themselves than the customer. They will want to sell iMacs and not Mac Mini/display combos. Personally, I also want to see a modern Airport Express to use with 3rd party speakers or at least for the next Apple TV to have an independent optical audio output so it can be used for music without the TV on! But of course Apple want to sell you HomePods. I love Apple dearly but I wish they would love ME a little bit more!
I had to send back 4 Pro Display XDRs due to the vignette issues, dead pixels on arrival and weird build quality problems I’d never seen with Apple over a 20 year period. Snazzy Labs had the same vignette issue. I also had glue sticking out from between the glass and chassis, and the glass wasn’t even applied straight on some of them. I’m envious of those that got good units. I have had a studio display for the last 12 months and I’m ‘satisfied’ but hope they knock it out the park with the 2nd gen if it comes.
I use a 160Hz monitor (but the M4 Pro mini limits it to 144Hz) and I don't game with it. It wasn't even half as expensive as the Apple Studio Display.
One you get used to >= 120Hz, 60Hz feels like the dark ages. Even for desktop app use.