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Apple's Redesigned Developer Forums Launch Ahead of WWDC

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As planned, Apple's redesigned and overhauled Developer Forums launched today ahead of WWDC. The new design is cleaner, streamlined, and simpler to use, with top posts, top tags, and more highlighted.

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The Developer Forums allow developers to interact with one another and troubleshoot issues together, but when WWDC kicks off on Monday, developers will also be able to chat with and interact with over 1,000 Apple engineers who will be available on the forums.

With the new forums, anyone can search and view the forum discussions, while Apple Developer Program members can post questions.

Apple announced plans to introduce the revamped Developer Forums when it announced the schedule for its first ever digital WWDC event, which kicks off on Monday, June 22.

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Apple needs to revamp their documentation. Possibly the worst documentation system among big tech, with 20 year old web frameworks, small fonts, expired/stale information, etc. And that's if you're lucky enough to find documentation, because otherwise you're going to have to search through old WWDC videos for basic information. Apple apparently doesn't believe in tutorials in their documentation.
 
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I wonder what stack are they using. They used to be on WebObject and Java.
 
Always had more success with stackoverflow any way. It's too slow to login to the apple site and less users -> less responses.

But it's good they make an effort! They could make it better for instance by having apple engineers spend some time there.
 
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This look terrible. The layout looks completely unfinished and like a mismatch of some enlarged version of what's supposed to be displayed in on iPhone married with the top banner that looks like it's supposed to be displayed on a Mac/PC....and it looks this way on a Mac in Safari. Developers develop on a Mac. Looking at this on the [Apple-blessed] LG ultrafine 5k looks awful.

What are they thinking? I really hope this isn't an indication of where Apple's design aesthetic is headed, especially on the Mac. Yuk.

Also, it doesn't even support dark mode? Is this really meant for developers?
 
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I didn’t think they could get any worse. But Apple has exceeded my expectations.

No browse?? Only search?? Supposing I felt like answering a question, how would I find questions asked recently? Seems like they have gone from mostly unusable to completely unusable.
 
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I didn’t think they could get any worse. But Apple has exceeded my expectations.

No browse?? Only search?? Supposing I felt like answering a question, how would I find questions asked recently? Seems like they have gone from mostly unusable to completely unusable.
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I suppose you can click the number next to each tag and see questions in newest to oldest order, but that's about it... Apple needs some better web devs for sure.
 
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Do they still suck? Are 90% of the messages going to go without any sort of response (because it's practically impossible to browse)?
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Unless I’m missing something, it’s gone from practically impossible to literally impossible. So approximately 100% of questions will go unanswered.
 
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After spending 5 minutes in the new forum. It still sucks. Big time. Unfortunately that's exactly what I expected. For their developer tools more often than not "revamped" just means a new visual design. See also: their revamped bugreport.apple.com from a few years ago.


In the forums they're still using their weird synonym thingie when you search something, and they completely get the prioritising of the search terms wrong. Search for Combine to see for yourself. Apple believes when I search for their Combine framework I'm interested in Core Data merge policy and year old threads about combining multiple partitions.


Maybe they should just pay Stackoverflow for a license, and then make the Apple forum a stackoverflow clone that allows open questions. Reddit would be another system they could try to license.
 
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Apple does not seem to care much about the macOS platform. Nor do they care much about developers: the documentation is horrible. Support is basically non-existing. Bugs remain unfixed. Questions remain unanswered.

Tim Cook: how about spending some of that money on proper documentation and support, so we can build greater things for your platforms and make more people happy?

Tim, if you are ignorant because your people tell you everything is perfect: it is not. Buy a golden whip with diamonds on top and whip some common sense in the nerds in the dark. If you are well aware but just don't care: use that same whip to give yourself some common-sense treatment.
 
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will they actually help developers? and will i still need 2way identification to log in.
 
It would require a lot more participation from Apple than in the past to make this a success. Compared to Stack Overflow also the new forum is awfully short on features.
 
About categories :
Just figured out by trial that the SO syntax [watchOS] in search bar allows for tag search beyond the Top ranked on the right.

BTW, I hate that banner picture. This emoji trend hurts my aesthetic taste.
Edit: just added a few line to my custom css Safari file:
CSS: 
main > picture > img.hero-image {
    display: none !important;
}
 
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