See: Woot, MacSales.com (OWC) that I know of for sure along with the aforementioned eBay at select sellers.
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Apple's Refurbished Mac Mini Pricing Has a Problem
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Only M2 Macs Mini available on the UK refurb store.
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Aaaand they're back.
Weird.
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And some are in stock yet others are shown but are not available for delivery or pick-up.
What a mess.
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Apple needs to unpair Studio Macs from Ultra processor. So that the max model can readily update. While it’s a nice option the ultra is in effect a Mac Pro as far as seeing updates. This is unwanted with most customers. Hopefully this situation is finally recognized and models are named differently.
Apple has full control of what software can run on an iPad and can restrict software that will not run well on a lower end iPad. With MacOS, they don't have that amount of fine control and if they did, users would complain. Given how thin the iPad is, heat would be a huge concern when running MacOS applications and it would have to throttle the CPU down so much that it would not be usable. Let the iPad be an iPad and the Mac be a Mac.
Have you looked at the used car market? Most of the Veloster N models near me cost more than the newer Elantra N. I have no idea how they plan to sell them.
I agree. Two tiers of products: Studio Max and Ultra Pros. Give us mere mortals regular updates so we don't have to wait for them to figure out to bridge or make one large chip.
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If they'd just orient their prices at the market and not put a 10000% markup on RAM (actually, that's not an exaggeration, 16GB DDR5 Laptop RAM goes for €37, apple charges €430 for upgrading from 16 to 32), they wouldn't have that problem. But I guess, they can live with it.
I thought about upgrading my old 12.9” iPad Pro for the new 13” Pro but when I priced it up with the anti-glare screen and keyboard case the price was nearly 2,500. I could buy a MBP for that money. Sadly I think they’ve lost the plot with the iPad Pro pricing.
Yes, that's the problem. I own the hardware, I should be able to run whatever the fudge I want on it.
Remember bootcamp? It's not like Apple had to take all responsibility for what people did running Windows or Linux on Apple hardware, even if some things ran poorly. If you remove the default OS, whatever happens next is on you. Everyone is fine with this, except Apple apparently.
This baseless speculation. The Macbook Air is very thing and has a passively-cooled (no fan) M-series chip just like the iPad. If it can run on a Macbook Air, it can run on an iPad. And the Macbook Air runs a lot of things very very well; throttling does not make it unusable.
Nobody is saying YOU have to run MacOS on iPad. If you like the iPadOS, then run iPadOS. Giving users the choice does not ruin the iPad for you or anyone.
It doesn’t sound like a problem to me. I will prefer to pay just 50$ extra for newer model. And I believe everyone else would do the same. Apple will mark the price down if no one buys refurbished stuff.
Come to Canada and get it for $477.56 USD after exchange! Currently 679 CDN. (still loving my M1 Mac Mini)
Exactly. I've been in the market to buy 10 Mini M2 refurbished which can easily be found on eBay for $359 and less (with a warranty too) but Apple's refurb M2 pricing is way out of line even when they had the 8GB base. Don't forget my (and likely yours) credit card doubles the warranty on all products I buy...even refurbs with a 1-year warranty.
I can only buy 1 M4 Mini via the Education site but I could either find some friends to buy it for me or wait for online retailers to sell it for $499 (which they have been in the past few weeks).
I just haven't had the time to bite the bullet and choose a path. But for $359, that's one great deal for my use case (distributed computing) when the M4 isn't that much faster than the M2 (Mini base models) so saving $100-$150 a machine is a big deal.
To be fair there probably are companies and orgs that have lots of M2 machines deployed and would prefer to swap a dead one out like for like, especially if they have any accessories sized for the older Mac Minis or if they have specific testing and certification requirements, so they'll pay for it, even if it's more expensive than the M4
Right. Or someone who already has an office full of the older model and needs one more. It would make more sense to pay slightly more and have commonality than pay slightly less and have one oddball machine.
It’s a mess considering a refurb Mac has a discount range around 10% while band new from other vendors can have similar 10% discounts or more which renders the refurb pricing as a not competitive.
If a refurb offered a 20% or higher discount it would be tempting compared to brand new but at present it makes little sense.
If a refurb offered a 20% or higher discount it would be tempting compared to brand new but at present it makes little sense.