Apple's response will effectively shift blame to AT&T

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by zub3qin, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. zub3qin macrumors 65816


    Apr 10, 2007
    Pretty smart move on Apple's part, and they probably are correct with their findings.

    Now people will have poor signal on iPhone 4 (subtract 1-2 bars from what you are getting now since supposedly the bars are falsely high).

    So after the hubbub dies down, people will resume blaming AT&T's network and not Apple, when they find they are not getting signal with their iPhone 4.

    Not everyone has 2 phones that they can compare side to side to see if one is getting signal and the other isn't.

    But what about the proximity sensor issue? Is that going to be fixed?
  2. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    No. False. You don't just subtract 2. If you have 5 bars you might still have 5, you might have 4 you might have 3. It's a formula and that was just an example. If you have 1 bar - you might have 1 bar. You wouldn't have 0 bars.

    But yes - EXCELLENT PR - wonder if it will fly with anyone who's not completely drowning in kool-aid though. It seems very transparent that they are admitting nothing except that their carriers (ATT highlighted) is the culprit.

    Forget that fact that what they aren't saying is that for years they have been falsifying the ability for their phone to hold a signal by misrepresenting their signal strength. And believe me - that was calculated. Because if they released a phone that consistently showed less bars than other phones on the market, they'd be in trouble.

    Not to mention - accident that you can no longer field test in OS 4.0?
  3. OllyW Moderator


    Staff Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    The Black Country, England
    People are having the same reception problems with the iPhone 4 in other countries.

    How can that be AT&T's fault? :confused:
  4. bababoey14 macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    At&t should sue Apple now lol....that would be classic
  5. OGDaniel macrumors 6502a


    Dec 24, 2009
    People who compulsively buy every gen iPhone have been blaming AT&T for awhile now actually.


    And as much as sometime trying to diss Apple would say, the smartest group of engineers doesn't spend hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D and years building the device to find out their "design flaw" causes problems. The signal loss happens with every freakin' phone with an internal antenna.
  6. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604


    May 28, 2005
    Actually it looks like they did, as the iPhone 4 has signal degradation much worse than any other phone out there.
  7. ubercool macrumors 6502a


    Jan 31, 2008
    Las Vegas
    I love how people keep insisting this happens with every phone, yet we owners of every prior generation of iPhone have never seen it happen before. :rolleyes:
  8. Gizmotoy macrumors 65816


    Nov 6, 2003
    It's nice that you have such faith in engineers, but we are human and thus we do make mistakes. It would probably be impossible to even count the number of times an engineering mistake has ended up costing millions of dollars and years of wasted time. It happens all the time.
  9. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    OK - so Apple couldn't possibly have designed the phone wrong BUT they could miscalculate the signal strength and represent it "wrong" on their device?

    Does not compute. If you want to praise Apple's engineering - look at the whole picture.

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