Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Selling $500,000/yr volume is low. It's $240/hr. Or less than an iPod Touch/hr... You can do two MBP in 15 min... or 4 iPhones in 2 min...

An Apple employee could break $1,000,000 pretty easily...

Yea $500,000 is low number, I was just simply going off of what the article stated.
 
If the Apple Store don't like their salaries, they are more than welcome to go work somewhere else.

Capitalism wins here.

Yep.

And by similar logic, shouldn't government employees be paid -$6 per hour? You know, given the government's success?
 
These people work in ******** retail? What do they think they are worth? As a stockholder I see where this is going and I am not ******** pleased. I love how defeatism spreads in America. Those retail employees are able to sell so much per square foot because of what the big boys do. Apple retail would have done just as well if you had monkeys instead of human employes. They are retail workers, any one on Earth can do their job. Hence the low pay. It's appropriate for what they do. If we start going this direction we are all f*cked. Because I want more compensation now too?

I take it you've never worked retail, and I really don't care if your are ******* pleased or not. :mad:

Apple retail stores have done well because they sell excellent products, in an outstanding environment, and also because they have intelligent, hardworking employees. Steve wanted to create a great experience for the customer, he accomplished that. He got all the pieces working together. Intelligent, knowledgable employees are a key part of the retail puzzle.

I doubt you could do their job, because from your smart***ed attitude I don't think many people would buy anything from you much less an expensive computer.

No, I am not an Apple retail employee, I am however an Apple stockholder, and I think that good Apple retail salespersons deserve an excellent compensation package. I applaud Tim Cooks actions in this regard. :)
 
I used to work at the Apple store in KOP, PA making $10/hr. The people who ran the kiosks in the middle selling Pillow Pals and knockoff sunglasses got $15/hr. Many other retailers got paid more.

You can't have a family and afford Apple products for $10/hr.

So why didn't you go get a job at the Pillow Pals place then?

See, this is the problem. You got paid $10/hr, which you felt was low, and yet you STILL chose to work there. WHY?

Ten of thousands of people work at Apple retail stores, and even without the generous 25% raise they just got, they STILL would be working there. The reason Apple pays what it does is because people are willing to work at those wages.

People need jobs in this economy and Apple provides them. In fact, their wages are fair compared to others! So what is the problem again?
 
These people work in ******** retail? What do they think they are worth? As a stockholder I see where this is going and I am not ******** pleased. I love how defeatism spreads in America. Those retail employees are able to sell so much per square foot because of what the big boys do. Apple retail would have done just as well if you had monkeys instead of human employes. They are retail workers, any one on Earth can do their job. Hence the low pay. It's appropriate for what they do. If we start going this direction we are all f*cked. Because I want more compensation now too?

Apple is well known for it's good customer service, these people aren't just monkeys will apple on their shirts. You shouldn't be so quick to dump all over Apple Store employees considering I read some stories recently that Apple store employees will be getting a pay rise.
 
.

So it's interesting...we like to compare computers to cars so much, but here's one place the analogy falls flat. Why the difference? If supply and demand means people will sell Macs for $25k, why won't car salesman? Is that job really much harder?

Is car sales much harder than selling iPhones? Em yeah a little bit. Was that a serious post?
 
Apple employees are underpaid, period. Comparing them to other retailers, fast food jobs, etc. Paying them $10/hr is too low.

If a company makes a lot of money, they should pay their employees more. Right?

Why should a company who makes a lot of money pay their employees less?

Should a person working at Abercrombie be paid more or as much as an Apple employee?

The fact is, people like to work for Apple so they take less money. Then the day comes they need to feed their families and get another job.

----------

Would you please tell me what are the requirements in applying for an Apple Retail employee? I also think it's an awesome experience to work at an Apple Retail Store. :cool:

Knowledge of Apple products, some retail experience. They are always hiring, I'm sure anyone could get a job there.
 
Commissions at Apple is a bad idea, the employees would start to become very pushy and try to up-sell you on all kinds of stuff that isn't needed. Part of what makes the ethos so nice is that the employees are there to serve you in a relaxed and approachable manor.
 
The amount of social Darwinism being espoused in this thread is sadly predicable. Some clearly need to acquaint themselves with the redistribution of the wages curve over the last 35 years. It is kind of depressing to hear so many people who are not only unaware of what has occurred over this period of time, but who apparantly accept and even celebrate the new order. All hail downward mobility.
 
Commissions at Apple is a bad idea, the employees would start to become very pushy and try to up-sell you on all kinds of stuff that isn't needed. Part of what makes the ethos so nice is that the employees are there to serve you in a relaxed and approachable manor.

Exactly.
 
So why didn't you go get a job at the Pillow Pals place then?

See, this is the problem. You got paid $10/hr, which you felt was low, and yet you STILL chose to work there. WHY?

Ten of thousands of people work at Apple retail stores, and even without the generous 25% raise they just got, they STILL would be working there. The reason Apple pays what it does is because people are willing to work at those wages.

People need jobs in this economy and Apple provides them. In fact, their wages are fair compared to others! So what is the problem again?

Well said. The problem is that some people don't understand the economic contribution Apple provides. All they want to do is to complain, complain, complain.
 
Apple is not paying its retail staff enough given the success of the stores, instead relying on its employees' devotion to the company

Because there are no other precedents for that. For that matter, most of us just work for the paycheck. No intrinsic interest in the actual job. Ask a teacher, nurse, or a person in the military. No devotion there.

</sarcasm>
 
If the Apple Store don't like their salaries, they are more than welcome to go work somewhere else.

Capitalism wins here.

Yep - screwing the lowest guy on the totem pole just like it is designed to do.

It's ironic that they are the ones that tend to defend it.
 
I take it you've never worked retail, and I really don't care if your are ******* pleased or not. :mad:

Apple retail stores have done well because they sell excellent products, in an outstanding environment, and also because they have intelligent, hardworking employees. Steve wanted to create a great experience for the customer, he accomplished that. He got all the pieces working together. Intelligent, knowledgable employees are a key part of the retail puzzle.

I doubt you could do their job, because from your smart***ed attitude I don't think many people would buy anything from you much less an expensive computer.

No, I am not an Apple retail employee, I am however an Apple stockholder, and I think that good Apple retail salespersons deserve an excellent compensation package. I applaud Tim Cooks actions in this regard. :)

Hardworking? I take it you've never done a hard days work in your life then. They might be there and they may do some things but hard work it is not. I have to say the closest thing I have done to retail was working a full service station in high school. While that was busy 95% of the time it wasn't hard work. Hard work was working material handling in a factory lifting/pulling/slinging tens of 1000's of lbs of materials 10-12 hours a day 5-6 days a week just out of high school.
 
Is car sales much harder than selling iPhones? Em yeah a little bit. Was that a serious post?

Why? Every time I've bought a car the salesman drives around with me and then passes me off to his "manager" who actually finishes the sale.

That first guy doesn't seem to have that hard of a job and I know he's getting commission. I'm just saying that the car salesman seems to make more money than many other retail jobs. I find that interesting. You don't?
 
really?

First off people that say "if they don't like their job they should just quit if they don't like" or "people would be dying to have their" blah blah blah bunch of crap. Just because apple can do that and in fact is true doesn't mean it ethical nor the right thing to do. They already pimp China for dirt cheap labor, we shouldn't be doing that to young talented Americans.

Why does Tim Cook deserve 570 million? At least Steve jobs was the mastermind behind apple.

Apple employee's should pay their employees more, I'm not sure how much but for a company making that much money they should start out more than $11.25 an hour. They can't even afford to buy the products they sell.

But i disagree with them claiming how much the specialist's sell. By the time a customer comes in the store they already made up their mind they want an apple product. They are a key part to apple's success no doubt.
 
How in demand your skill is determines the value of your wages.

There is no scarcity for retail workers in Apple stores. However if you're the guy that knows how to program for OSX or iOS and you can do it well, obviously your worth goes up dramatically.
 
Nothing would be worse than Apple retail employees working on commission. I don't care how much the Times says they should be. I HATE and avoid going into businesses where the staff is on commission.

The stuff they wrote about happens in nearly all retail jobs. No one lives happily ever after in retail. Rude costumers, not enough time to finish your work, working through breaks and lunches and saying you didn't.... been there done that. It's called working in retail, NY Times. You need to get out more.
 
Why? Every time I've bought a car the salesman drives around with me and then passes me off to his "manager" who actually finishes the sale.

That first guy doesn't seem to have that hard of a job and I know he's getting commission. I'm just saying that the car salesman seems to make more money than many other retail jobs. I find that interesting. You don't?

Good for him that he gets an easy sale from people like you. How often do you think that happens? Buying a car is a much bigger decision than buying a phone. Apple staff might even make up a large chunk of that 500,000 on product launch which is when they aren't even trying to sell, they are trying to clear up thousands of customers who queued all night. You don't sell Ford Focuses like that.
 
I worked retail for years and was in a position to know how much "associate" employees made at Bed Bath & Beyond. There was one Associate out of 30 stores I could access making more then $13.00 an hour. Retail pays ****, always has always will. It's not so much the pay as the lack of benefits or vacation time. The friends I know who work for Apple retail are quite happy with there pay and job.
 
There is nothing wrong with applying social pressure this way.

It's not like this is the government dictating wages- these are independent journalists speaking out freely.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.