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Apple's Rumored MacBook Air Successor Said to Use Intel's Kaby Lake Refresh Processors
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I don't understand why this is such a big deal...
I actually appreciate the more understated polished logo. Less gaudy and "look at me, I can afford a MacBook."
Well new models don’t have any of those ports so the likelihood of them coming back is next to none.
The current 12" MacBook chassis has no fans and can't dissipate the heat generated by a 15w CPU without one. The current CPUs in the 12" are 5w TDP CPUs and can work without a fan. Engineering is always a compromise.
The MBA is pretty beloved by a lot of people, iconic, if you will. And cheaper...something Apple thought they would roll over with how awesome the 12" MacBook was, and found out differently.
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You can have it good, you can have it fast, you can have it cheap - pick two.
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How is AMD doing with their CPU release lineup? Are they also running behind schedule like Intel? and if not, is there any reason why Apple won't make the switch to AMD processors? Legitimate questions; I'm just trying to understand.
If they kill magsafe and ports, kill good keyboard - last macbooks air will be product in very high demand... last reasonable macbook;(
This will be an interesting space to watch. I wonder if this will fall more along the line of a “spec bump+,” a “radical reimagining,” or somewhere in between. Apple has the challenge creating something doesn’t cannibalize the MBP/MB/iPad Pro, yet isn’t just an also-ran.
I don’t need the power of the MBP, but the screen size of the MB at 12” is a little too small for me at this point in life. I’m wondering if the new MBA will slot in between the lines, or somewhere below the MB.
I don’t need the power of the MBP, but the screen size of the MB at 12” is a little too small for me at this point in life. I’m wondering if the new MBA will slot in between the lines, or somewhere below the MB.
The hardware media format upgrade in Kaby Lake is a pretty big jump over Skylake. Intel added full 10-bit HDR 4K HEVC support in hardware in Kaby Lake, along with 4K DRM support in hardware too, and Apple has built its ecosystem around HEVC going forward.The funny thing is that they essentially all are just the old good Skylake
I wouldn't be surprised to see an update in Mojave bring 10-bit HDR 4K HEVC streaming with DRM (ie. iTunes 4K), which would require Kaby Lake or later. Skylake machines, including 2016 MacBook Pros and 2015 iMacs would be left in the dust.
Never going to happen as, one it would make the rMB pointless and two, everyone would say why the heck didn’t you do this 3 years ago. They’re either consolidating the low end into one product (what they should do) or keeping the Air around and just giving it a slightly better screen. I hope they don’t do that as it keeps the low end confusing.All's Apple has to do is take the current Macbook Air, put a edge to edge Retina display in it and update the internals. THATS IT. Macbook Air is seriously amazing form factor even today.
Also space grey option would be nice.
Personally, I find the 12” display of the MacBook simply too small. Adding to that, it costs a whopping $1500 (locally) and lacks the power to justify its price point as a long term “investment”. Ideal for the business traveler, perhaps, but not for the masses. I think the “Air” moniker would have been more fitting.
While the 13” MBP does provide the screen size I need, it offers more performance than might be necessary, especially now in Quad Core trim. It’s also $2500 where I’m from, for the base model with 8GB RAM.
Whatever Apple is now cooking, I think has the potential of becoming a great success.
- 13” Retina Display
- Rumored Quad Core processor at 15w TDP should mean plenty of performance while still maintaining great battery life
- Thin and light
- $1000 price point
Where do I sign up?
While the 13” MBP does provide the screen size I need, it offers more performance than might be necessary, especially now in Quad Core trim. It’s also $2500 where I’m from, for the base model with 8GB RAM.
Whatever Apple is now cooking, I think has the potential of becoming a great success.
- 13” Retina Display
- Rumored Quad Core processor at 15w TDP should mean plenty of performance while still maintaining great battery life
- Thin and light
- $1000 price point
Where do I sign up?
Since they will be missing an entry level 13" screen, (once the MacBook Air is out), I'm betting on a MacBook 13" with 2 USB C port, butterfly keyboard, non touchbar. The naming is up in the air. (pun intended)
That's why some people want it, to feel special. All it does is help drain the battery and shorten the battery life.
Since Cannon chips are not ready, I guess using The Kaby Lake will help keep the price low. I can see the new Air will have only 2 Thunderbolt ports and Apple will call it the lighter and thinner Mac Air.
You more or less just described the 2017 MacBook Pro non-TB. It's the same weight as the current MacBook Air.
Intel hasn't combined the three requirements of quad core, 15W, and Iris Plus (to drive retina smoothly) yet for something like the nontouchbar 13, so I wonder if either Apple lets this use a non-Plus GPU, or else it's built for 28W CPUs (imo, unlikely, would eat the Touchbar sales).
The 12" does use a non-Plus GPU so that's possible, though it's also less pixels to push.
The 12" does use a non-Plus GPU so that's possible, though it's also less pixels to push.
As the article states, no, they couldn't. There simply are no Coffee Lake/Whiskey Lake 15W parts at this point. There are "eighth-gen" Kaby Lake Refresh parts, but 1) those lack the Iris Plus, and 2) Apple probably wants to wait for Whiskey Lake.
And this is completely wrong, it needs 0 Watts of energy since it is illuminated by the display's background lighting.
The GPU in the 12" would have zero problems pushing a 13" Retina screen. Here is my Core m3 MacBook pushing an external 4K screen:
That's one reason why I think there is a decent chance of Apple releasing an Amber Lake Y fanless 13" MacBook.
