All iPads Apple's secret plan for world domination

KenAFSPC

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The iPad Duo
12.1" or 13.3" Retina display
Functions as an iPad with IOS UI when keyboard detached (10hr battery life)
Functions as a MacBook with OSX UI when keyboard attached (20hr battery life)
Runs all existing iOS and OSX applications
1.4 lbs (keyboard detached) - same as iPad
2.4 lbs (keyboard attached) - same as MacBook Air
IOS X

Who wants one?
 

KenAFSPC

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I really don't understand your battery life there bud. Did you switch them around by mistake?
The keyboard + display combo (Macbook) would leverage two batteries. The display itself (iPad) would use only one.

As an alternative, Apple could offer an ultra-slim keyboard cover without a battery, much like the MS Surface keyboard. As before, you would get IOS mode without the keyboard cover and OSX mode with the keyboard cover.
 
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This is where Microsoft is both ideally placed, and missing a trick. With something like the surface pro, you should be able to use the tablet as:

- A pure tablet
- A pure tablet + keyboard
- A large, touch input device/digitising tablet, when connected to a proper monitor and keyboard.

At the moment, the interfaces haven't really been thought out for the latter, where you may or may not be looking at the device while touching.
 

marc11

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I just read about a tablet that does this. By Samsung I think. It runs android when in tablet mode and also runs Windows 8 touch or with a snap on keyboard. You can even have notifications and apps from android on to your websites home screen. You just number between os as you need or desire. Very very slick.
 

iPhysicist

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The iPad Duo
12.1" or 13.3" Retina display
Functions as an iPad with IOS UI when keyboard detached (10hr battery life)
Functions as a MacBook with OSX UI when keyboard attached (20hr battery life)
Runs all existing iOS and OSX applications
1.4 lbs (keyboard detached) - same as iPad
2.4 lbs (keyboard attached) - same as MacBook Air
IOS X

Who wants one?
Terrible Concept. You know how Computers work? I played with Lego a lot in my youth and built nice starships... but those did not make their way to space for some reason.
 

NewbieCanada

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I think a lot of people (non power user types) would get confused by the switch between modes. You're working on an email in tablet, it's gone when you snap on the keyboard.

If the product existed I'd rather it run a touch-optimized OS X. If I'm holding a Mac, I want a Mac, not an iPad
 

brendu

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The iPad Duo
12.1" or 13.3" Retina display
Functions as an iPad with IOS UI when keyboard detached (10hr battery life)
Functions as a MacBook with OSX UI when keyboard attached (20hr battery life)
Runs all existing iOS and OSX applications
1.4 lbs (keyboard detached) - same as iPad
2.4 lbs (keyboard attached) - same as MacBook Air
IOS X

Who wants one?
Not a bad idea but I think apple is slowly going to make the iPad more feature rich and for many people it will become the only "computer" they need. Right no it's already possible for many people but I expect over the next five years we will see it become even more suitable. A slightly bigger screen would help but isn't really necessary.
 

MrWillie

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I'm pretty sure even Apple hasn't made magical battery tech that would allow an iPad to run 20 hours on OS X.
Battery in iPad + battery in keyboard = 20 hrs. I get 14 plus on my iPad 4. It would be OSX on ARM.

I think a lot of people (non power user types) would get confused by the switch between modes. You're working on an email in tablet, it's gone when you snap on the keyboard.

If the product existed I'd rather it run a touch-optimized OS X. If I'm holding a Mac, I want a Mac, not an iPad
I think it's going to be a touch enabled version of Mac OS running on ARM or one of these fancy dancy power sipping x86 chips. I don't think it will swap between two OS'. that would be confusing. Keyboard will have extra battery only, no CPU.
 

macs4nw

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The iPad Duo
12.1" or 13.3" Retina display
Functions as an iPad with IOS UI when keyboard detached (10hr battery life)
Functions as a MacBook with OSX UI when keyboard attached (20hr battery life)
Runs all existing iOS and OSX applications
1.4 lbs (keyboard detached) - same as iPad
2.4 lbs (keyboard attached) - same as MacBook Air
IOS X

Who wants one?
Keep talking, you've peaked our interest, we wanne hear more.....not the least of which is price.
 

Nyy8

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So Where does the 8GB of ram go, the 128GB of SSD, and Core i5/i7? If we are talking about Core i5s or i7s those generate heat, which means we would need fans.

Huh... If the "A7" or "A7X" is powerful enough (say a 1.5 GHz dual core) you could see that. But then what about RAM. It's an interesting concept but I can't see it happening without some major innovation.
 

rowspaxe

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OP gets points for originality. I think the detachable conventional keyboard will not be a viable hybrid scheme overtime, although it alot of windows oems seemed determined to make it work. It is possible--however--that touch laptops will take off while detachables languish. I like the sony slider paradigm. Tim Cook notwishtanding, I'd bet apple is doing some hybrid style r&d, but a detachable laptop base is very "un-apple"
 

iPhysicist

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Not he wasted three years - the company did. Not to mention the money wasted by forum members who bought his stuff ;-) jk

No - really this idea is like a mac pro - macbook air hybrid. There is no need for it.
If you once had a MBA 11" and an 9,7" iPad you want to use both. Sometimes even together. How does your Hybrid solve this problem?
 

raccoonboy

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Ipad indeeds has a terrific battery. I dont know why they dont have the same battery life on Iphone let alone the fact that they put in so little 1400 mah on a retina device.

Many laptop should be envy of the Ipad battery but ios 7 may take that away if it actually let app runs in the background.
 

KenAFSPC

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Interesting thought but unneeded. Apple's not so secret plan with the iPads they already have seems to be working just fine.
Apple still has 10-15 percent market share for PCs. This would potentially give them 50-80 percent PC market share.

I think it's going to be a touch enabled version of Mac OS running on ARM or one of these fancy dancy power sipping x86 chips. I don't think it will swap between two OS'. that would be confusing. Keyboard will have extra battery only, no CPU.
Exactly. It would be a single, touch-capable operating system (hence "IOS X") with two different modes, so there are no compromises as in Windows 8. Switching would be seamless; taking the previous posters example, you could begin an email in keyboard (OSX/desktop mode) and continue editing in non-keyboard (iOS/tablet) mode. Touch capability would function in both modes. Keep in mind that OSX and IOS are likely to become more similar in the coming years.

The keyboard with touchpad and battery would be completely optional, albeit desirable for serious work where a keyboard, I/O ports, and/or additional computing power are necessary. You might get four cores running at 1.2-1.6GHz without the keyboard and the same four cores at 2.4-3.2GHz with the keyboard (with battery). Alternatively, you could use OSX/desktop mode with a slim keyboard cover (no built-in battery) at the expense of I/O ports, reduced computing power, and reduced battery life.

So Where does the 8GB of ram go, the 128GB of SSD, and Core i5/i7? If we are talking about Core i5s or i7s those generate heat, which means we would need fans.

Huh... If the "A7" or "A7X" is powerful enough (say a 1.5 GHz dual core) you could see that. But then what about RAM. It's an interesting concept but I can't see it happening without some major innovation.
The proposed product would feature an Apple A10 or a SoC based on the successor to Intel's Silvermont architecture, depending on the concessions Apple can extract from Intel. Both would likely be based on some variant of Intel's P1273 process. This process should give us mobile SoCs with comparable performance to current desktop processors.

The space required by RAM is negligible. The SSD module within the MacBook Air is already fairly small. In the near future, SSD manufacturers will begin using NAND fabricated on the 14/16nm process. This will enable even smaller 128-256GB SSDs. Within a few years, such SSDs will fit into an area not much larger than the size of your thumbnail.
 
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osofast240sx

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The iPad Duo
12.1" or 13.3" Retina display
Functions as an iPad with IOS UI when keyboard detached (10hr battery life)
Functions as a MacBook with OSX UI when keyboard attached (20hr battery life)
Runs all existing iOS and OSX applications
1.4 lbs (keyboard detached) - same as iPad
2.4 lbs (keyboard attached) - same as MacBook Air
IOS X

Who wants one?
Not me, horrible idea. I like having multiple devices. iOS should stay iOS and osx should stay osx. This is the mistake MS made with the surface.