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Is it really that tough for you to understand? Apple sells two phones. Those are the two most popular phones sold.

The other manufacturers ALL sell many, many models of phones. The total sales of those many phones combined equal to a number that is bigger than Apple's total sales.

I guess it is best to let it go. Too many people unwilling to compare like things (like IPhone 4 vs Nexus S or Galaxy xyz). They want to do perform some comparison of dissimilar objects because they desperately want the iPhone to be losing at something.

They throw out Android as an App platform even though they still sell container loads of phones on 1.6 that will never be upgraded to a compatible OS. They will redefine winning because they hate Apple.

It is weird, kind of creepy and getting old.
 
Grabbing 5% of the total phone market with an expensive product is amazing in such a short time. :cool:

Not really when you think about it, most carriers offer phone upgrades every couple of years. Turnover in the mobile phone market is pretty high.
 
Not at all. Sales are determined and calculated by part numbers ... by any reliable firm, that is. Perhaps, you're not familiar with such practices? Maybe you spend too much time viewing simplified/dumbed-down blogs instead of actual sales/business forecasts. It's OK, at one juncture, all of us had to spoon-fed.

http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_110428.html

Sales are determined by model number. Inventory control is calculated by part number.

Keep trying, though. I'm quite amused.
 
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1 in 20

So 1 in 20 people who have a cellphone have an iPhone. Not bad at all.

The amazing part is how many models the companies above them (and below them) are selling to get to where they are.
 
Android is not a consistent platform. A huge chunk of that "market share" is running 1.6 and is not compatible with anything in the Market. What I said is true. What you said sounds like a desperate attempt to redefine winning.

Why does what you said matter. It has been true over a year and App sales on Android are still less then 10% of iOS.

PS. The Android US "market share" slipped 5% in the last quarter and the iPhone went up.

These comparison of a single device against a loose collection of largely incompatible devices is growing tiresome.


You simply can not read and have no idea what you are talking about.

I made no mistakes. There is not a phone in the world that sold more then the Phone. More people bought an iPhone then any other phone. If you see someone with a phone, it is more likely an iPhone then any other kind of phone. Not more likely then all other kinds of phones.

If someone came up to you and said, I purchased a phone in the last year and Iwill give you 5 million dollars if you can guess what it is, you would say an iPhone. Unless you were a moron.


Apple has, in total sold a little more than 100 million iPhones. (March 2011)

Anyway.

Nokia has sold over 200 million of the 1100 and it's heirs. (And this was back in 2007, they are still being sold...)

So, I guess you are the moron. Sorry.

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What differs between the Nokia 110x models:

The 1100a operates on the GSM-900/1800 network.
The 1100b operates on the GSM-850/1900 network
The 1100i adds a built-in Nokia prepaid tracker
The 1101 replaces the green backlighting with a white backlighting and adds a simple WAP 1.1 browser
The 1108 also replaces the green backlighting with a white backlighting.

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Scratch 200 million. It's 250 million. (March 2011)

And Nokia has sold 126 million of the 3310 and its heirs.

Without any doubt, you really are the moron.

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There are five variants in the 1100 series, so if we divided them up in five shares, that means that one of them must have sold at least 50 million.

But if we do that then we would have to divide the 100 million iPhones among the original, the 3G, the 3GS, the 4, the 4 CDMA, and the White 4. Since the difference between these are greater than between the variants of the 1100.
 
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Actually, if you want to peruse "Press Releases" and cite them as definitive, that's your choice. It just reeks of amateurism and would get you laughed out of any meeting that I attend.

Good comeback. So you haven't done much work in sales, I take it? That's cool, you can just admit that you were wrong, and nobody will think less of you.
 
Good comeback. So you haven't done much work in sales, I take it? That's cool, you can just admit that you were wrong, and nobody will think less of you.

No, I'm a prof who designs some of these systems discussed here. I would get laughed out of any meeting where I compare numbers in the manner than you do.

It's absolutely imprecise, but if you're in sales, I understand how it makes sense to simply for the customer.
 
No, I'm a prof who designs some of these systems discussed here. I would get laughed out of any meeting where I compare numbers in the manner than you do.

It's absolutely imprecise, but if you're in sales, I understand how it makes sense to simply for the customer.

#1 - You're a biochemist. Quit lying. You haven't designed anything remotely close to what's being discussed here, so you're not attending any meetings.

#2 - I'm not in sales. I'm a software engineer. Who actually, you know, is in the industry we're talking about.

What's the saying? Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
 
its OUR decade!

Do you work for Apple?

Indeed, and unlike the trolls, Apple users are amazed at how well Apple is doing in these rankings. When the iPhone first came out, I doubt anyone expected Apple to do as well as it has.

I think that you are right. Nobody had any idea how the iPhone would sell when it first came out. If iPhone is 5% of global sales, what it the percentage of US sales, it has to be much higher.
 
It's funny, but wherever I go, I always see people with iPhones. My train, on plane trips between Chicago and NYC, during meetings, etc. I am amazed the number is only 5% - but I guess it's the circles that I am in.

As a shareholder I'm happy to see them everywhere.

As a user its getting boring and predictable.

Thankfully I have a few of the latest ,exciting, big & beautiful Android Smartphones as my primary devices.
 
Maybe, when you rank the individual product models. But when you rank the underlying platforms, iOS is no longer leading the pack. Android has taken over the lead and that was to be expected, because Google did the smart thing: Divide and rule. Everybody can build Android gadgets, but only Apple builds iOS devices. And the systems that everybody can use have ALWAYS dominated the market. Just remember Windows vs Mac OS or VHS vs Betamax and Video 2000.

maybe, when you only rank platforms running on phones, but when you throw in other devices (tablets, iPods), the story changes. iOS leads the pack once again. (with a 59% lead over Android).
 
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It's funny, but wherever I go, I always see people with iPhones. My train, on plane trips between Chicago and NYC, during meetings, etc. I am amazed the number is only 5% - but I guess it's the circles that I am in.

The people with dumb-phones probably keep them in their pockets until they ring. Smart-phone people have their phone out more so it is more visible. Dumb-phones still make up over half of the global market (I think).

The staggering thing is the share of the premium customers that Apple has. By "premium", I mean those who actually buy a smartphone for the smartphone features like music, video, apps and such as opposed to those who just got whatever phone was the best free/ultra-cheap phone available (e.g.: last year's Android models for free with 2-year contract).

The iPhone customers actually fork over hundreds of dollars in music, video, and app purchases after they buy the phone. Those are the "premium" customers and right now Apple has the majority of them.

The customers who just got whatever free phone was available rarely buy more stuff after they get the phone. My father falls into this category, he just wants the thing to ring when somebody calls. He recently got excited to show me that he could change ring tones on his new phone. I was happy for him, but realized he would never ever use apps. I may get him an iPhone one day just so he can access he favorite sports information on the go.
 
I continue to be amazed by the number of students at my community college that have iPhones. These are students who for the most part are struggling to make ends meet, yet were willing to spend their limited cash that way. There are at least two or three students with iPhones in each of my classes; two years ago, I didn't see any -- and mine was a curiosity to them.

This is why people are in such big trouble. Buying shiny show-off toys that they can't afford. Especially community college students. :confused:
 
Unfortunately I was too poor to really benefit from the soaring AAPL stock. Even if I had bought a 100 shares back in 2000, I'd at best made $30K profit by now. Nothing to cry about.
 
The flip of it, is you have great Apple products to enjoy :)

No kidding since July 2010, I've bought the following products:

Apple Remote
MAC OS X 10.6.3 SNOW LEOPARD
Wireless keyboard
Mac Mini
Magic trackpad
iPad G1
iPod Touch 4G 64GB
iPod Nano 16GB
iPad 2

Airport Express - Airplay is really cool. Nice to have my entire library now available for streaming.
 
I continue to be amazed by the number of students at my community college that have iPhones. These are students who for the most part are struggling to make ends meet, yet were willing to spend their limited cash that way. There are at least two or three students with iPhones in each of my classes; two years ago, I didn't see any -- and mine was a curiosity to them.


people value what they value. do you think they are getting what they paid for in terms of education? probably not.
 
people value what they value. do you think they are getting what they paid for in terms of education? probably not.

I have a hard time believing that even working a part-time job would pay for $70-$90/month data plan. Remember they have to pay rent, food, utilities. Or they are living with parents.
 
I have a hard time believing that even working a part-time job would pay for $70-$90/month data plan. Remember they have to pay rent, food, utilities. Or they are living with parents.

I think you can easily make $70-$90/month by flipping burger....
 
In Stockholm and Frankfurt, I hardly see any iPhones. Also, I hardly see any iPads. I do however see a ton of MacBookPros but almost no MacBookAirs.

I find both places very style-centric (Stockholm especially), but also somewhat frugal. I don't think that iPhone will reach as large of a market share in Europe due to the high upfront cost of an iPhone (659€/799€ for 16GB/32GB).

Actually, it's running joke that you can identify an American by iPhone/iPad (aside from the loud inane conversation).

You hardly see iPhones in Stockholm!? I work in Stockholm and I see iPhones wherever I look, it seems like everyone has one to me. And it's like 75% iPhone 4 and 25% 3/3G
 
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