Yahoo have estimated that Apple will get 63 billion dollars worth of revenue this month. Using that data and the data that 3% of Apple's revenue goes to R&D, Apple will be using 30 million of that for R&D.
So these less profitable companies like Dell, Nokia, HTC etc. are not investing as much in R&D as apple? More profits =/ More R&D..
As a costumer of apples i find i appalling that they have such a large margin... means I am get less product for More money than competitors.
Yep.
Has anyone tried any of the new Win 7 equipped laptops vs a mac?
There really is no major difference, and if it werent for certain key pieces of software.. mainly Logic Pro for me, there'd be no need to shell out for a mac/osx if you cared about money.
If youre honest with yourself you'll admit it. Dont get me wrong macs are smoother in some areas.. but nowhere near 500+ GBP better, as evidenced by their profits. Absolutely no way. Right now they are largely aluminium and glass status symbols. About the only Mac worth the money is the midrange iMac
I'd love to know if these mobile phone profits numbers are based off U.S? or worldwide? As it appears in U.S they retail for bout the same as Android.
However in UK, you pretty much always pay a hefty amount for the (current) iphone, on top of 18 month contract, unless you go for the most expensive plans-on an 18 month contract.
Bravo to Apple though.
Couldn't disagree more, being honest. First, there is the hardware. I have had zero problems with several Apple laptops compared to every friend of mine that has bought the cheaper stuff at costco, best buy, etc. They've had power supply problems, DVD problems, keyboard problems - AND they have a terrible time getting it fixed, even under warranty. I used one of these $ saving system the other day and I could believe how bad the trackpad was, the keyboard was like mush, etc. In addition the laptop was significantly larger than my MBP. Now, I know you can easily match it spec-for-spec but I'm just judging by what people, who use computers every day, actually buy to save money and they are 'cheap' in the build sense.
As to software, my friends are still dealing with virus checkers, malware checkers, etc. Do they have to do this? I don't know but Dell, HP, Etc. all market them this way. They users continually have problems.
Big example is upgrading from an Vista system to Win 7. They had to go buy a special USB cable to transfer their data from the old to the new. The instructions said it could be done over the network but that never worked, and this was after about 5 hours of trying.
This transfer was painless on every MBP system I've dealt with over the last 5 years. Migration assistant just works.
So no, I don't think its a wash between OS's still and the hardware build quality from Apple also adds tremendous value.
So you're a shareholder ? Because as a consumer, profit share is massively unimportant. It just shows how much of a price gouge Apple is doing. Also, profit is not R&D investment. Profit is money in their pockets.
Heck, even as a shareholder you should start being pissed at this news. With such massive profits, you'd think shareholders would get some dividends...
Yea but we also know that RETAIL value for the the ip4 is 699 and 599... Apple is getting full retail for the phones ATT sells.. period! Att makes up the difference with overprice text and data plans for 2 years...
Well can you name one spec feature apple has the best the EVo?
I am just being devilish on this whole thing, but the point is apple is getting more money for less product, at its root. I am not talking about percieved worth... just raw money value.
So you're a shareholder ? Because as a consumer, profit share is massively unimportant. It just shows how much of a price gouge Apple is doing. Also, profit is not R&D investment. Profit is money in their pockets.
Heck, even as a shareholder you should start being pissed at this news. With such massive profits, you'd think shareholders would get some dividends...
So you're a shareholder ? Because as a consumer, profit share is massively unimportant. It just shows how much of a price gouge Apple is doing. Also, profit is not R&D investment. Profit is money in their pockets.
Heck, even as a shareholder you should start being pissed at this news. With such massive profits, you'd think shareholders would get some dividends...
A $100 stock that pays $4 annual dividend is a return of 4% (assuming constant stock price). A $100 growth stock gaining $20 in stock price result in a return of 20%. So between the two stocks, choosing a 20% return stock is a no brainer. It's all about the return.
Here's what I don't get. Android is open source and free for handset makers to use so there's minimal development costs for them as far as software goes.
So how exactly is it that Apple is still taking a significantly larger chunk of the profit than their competitors? I don't see how that happens.
The only scenario I can imagine is that the only time people buy Android handsets is when there are buy-one-get-one offer and that Android phones really only sell competitively at half-price. I can't imagine that's the case, and if it is, how on earth is that a good business strategy?
This just means that Apple rips off the customer & overcharges as much as they can. That means that there is really very little in the iPhone. At this rate the iPhone should be a free phone for all of those that are receiving a subsidy or $199 max for a 32GB model. Anything more is Apple ripping off their loyal customers. Why are we so stupid at times.
I might not be a big business type man like you, but with these two examples you have given, the first one still has growth potential, you can hold it and get further possible dividens, you can sell it and get any possible stock growth with it.
But in your second example, once you have sold it, you get no more returns.
The point is still the same. If I sold the stock and get $120, that money can be reinvested in another company. At the end of the year, I either have $104 or $120 depending on the investment choice. Whether I keep or sell both stocks, the value of each at the end of the year is different.
Or you could get the growth and dividend. With its massive "cash reserve", Apple is just sitting on money instead of either investing it in bettering the company or by paying dividend.
You could have had 124$ at the end of the year.
Either way, this story is for shareholders. Profits do not benefit consumers if it is not reinvested into R&D and bettering products, something which Apple does in a very limited way as the numbers show.
As I said earlier in this thread, Apple is the R&D lab for the world in the way Bell Labs once was.
What do modern OS UIs look like today? OS X.
What do music players look like? iPods.
What do smart phones look like? iPhones.
What do upcoming tablets look like? iPads.
If Apple didn't absolutely invent the look and feel of all of these products, they put a lot of R&D into them to figure out what would please a user. The market quickly copied Apple.
We're living in an Apple world whether or not you use Apple products. Heck, just look at how many Apple haters hang out here. Apple is the center of their world even if it's out of hate.
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As I said earlier in this thread, Apple is the R&D lab for the world in the way Bell Labs once was.
Certainly not. Bell Labs (and IBM's TJ Watson Labs) did basic research in physics, chemistry and other sciences, and published a huge portion of their research results. The entire technical sector of the U.S. (and eventually the world) benefited.
Apple R&D is more like a focused Xerox PARC, but without giving the future away like Xerox did.