Apple's Smaller Dock Connector Reportedly Coming to Entire iOS Device Lineup Including iPad This Fall

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I'd love to see someone interview Apple about why they can't just use standard micro-USB 3 connectors instead of propriety garbage that does little more than seek to rip-off the consumer by making them buy PITA dongles at inflated prices ($20 for a 50 cent cable seems to the norm).

It seems no on learns anything over the years about standardization. Oh, that's right. Greed gets in the way of inter-connectivity.

 

[hobo.hopkins]

I'd love to see someone interview Apple about why they can't just use standard micro-USB 3 connectors instead of propriety garbage that does little more than seek to rip-off the consumer by making them buy PITA dongles at inflated prices ($20 for a 50 cent cable seems to the norm).

It seems no on learns anything over the years about standardization. Oh, that's right. Greed gets in the way of inter-connectivity.

I can appreciate why the consumer might prefer standardisation, although it is also possible that Apple doesn't think that micro-USB 3 offers everything that they would prefer. At any rate we'll see/hear why come September.

 

[planetawesum]

Thank u god for universal plugs foiling a little bit of these companies scams. Thank u Europe for making it happen. Now we can go to anyone's house and not
Have to worry about a bunch of specialized plug bs

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

And those wonderful quotes are *completely* without any supporting evidence. Not to mention the one about shortening the release cycle attempts to justify itself by using *rumors*, which *DIDN'T* pan out. (That is, they're not only unsupported, they're *contraindicated* by the available evidence.)

The author is trying to get page views. The author of the article has unnamed sources, and no supporting evidence. Surely you don't take something as fact just because you read it on the Internet?

The article doesn't say Apple *WILL* update the entire line this fall. At most, it says Apple *MIGHT* update the entire line this fall, but can't provide any evidence to support that supposition.

You sir, get the biggest facepalm possible....

Yes it is a RUMOR. We are reading a RUMOR site. No body claims this as certain fact. Nothing is certain fact till Apple says so. Even the lost iPhone 4 prototype could have been an abandoned concept.

But this isn't just some random dude's opinion... This is from an alleged inside source. Could iMore be lying? Sure. Could the source be wrong? Sure. Could plans change in the next month? Sure.

But the job of this site is to report the rumors. MacRumors accurately reported this rumor, and you accused them of fabricating this iPad refresh rumor

 

[robertosh]

I hope they ship the new devices with an adaptor for the old dock. Yes, i know that this won't happen. More likely 30$

 

[WildCowboy]

So, if "as soon as" means "no later than", what does "as late as" mean?
If someone says they'll get you something "as soon as" next Tuesday, they're telling you not to expect it *before* then, but it may come later.

Headlines are *rarely* created by the person who wrote the article, and are (sadly) almost *never* fact-checked. Relying on a headline as if it were part of the article is pretty much never a sound idea.

I'm just pointing out to you that you've read into the article something that it doesn't *actually* say. Yes, by the way it's written, they *could* do a complete refresh of the entire iOS product line this fall, but even if this were a direct, official Apple statement (which it's not), the way it is written wouldn't mean that they were 'late' if they kept to the normal release schedule.

You overestimate iMore's editorial structure...I can almost guarantee you that Rene wrote the headline himself. It is his site after all.

I didn't state it very clearly in my earlier post, but my interpretation of "as soon as" includes the conclusion that the entire line has to make the move within the given timeframe. As laid out in the article, that timeframe begins with the September 12 event and ends when fall ends. Updating the iPhone in the fall but holding the iPad until its "regular" 2013 cycle does not meet that timeframe.

The article is quite clear in its meaning, and I'm not sure why you're jumping through so many hoops to interpret it differently. A guy has a reliable source who has indicated that all of Apple's iOS devices will be moving to the new dock connector this fall. It is what it is, and the last line of the post sums it up:

In the meantime, it sure sounds like Apple is planning to run the line when it comes to iOS device updates this September.

More than half of the article is related to how it would be normally be odd for Apple to update the current iPad in the fall but that the shift to the new dock connector is an interesting reason why the company might do it.

 

[tbrinkma]

You sir, get the biggest facepalm possible....

Yes it is a RUMOR. We are reading a RUMOR site. No body claims this as certain fact. Nothing is certain fact till Apple says so. Even the lost iPhone 4 prototype could have been an abandoned concept.

But this isn't just some random dude's opinion... This is from an alleged inside source. Could iMore be lying? Sure. Could the source be wrong? Sure. Could plans change in the next month? Sure.

But the job of this site is to report the rumors. MacRumors accurately reported this rumor, and you accused them of fabricating this iPad refresh rumor

I most certainly haven't accused anyone of lying, or fabricating a rumor. I've simply pointed out that the language used in the article doesn't mean what the person I've been responding seems to think.

For example, "as soon as" doesn't mean "no later than". He seems to think it does.

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More than half of the article is related to how it would be normally be odd for Apple to update the current iPad in the fall but that the shift to the new dock connector is an interesting reason why the company might do it.

And the single most concrete example used in that half of the article referred to a rumor that the iPad '3' would be released with a significantly shorter gap than we'd seen between the first two models. And that rumor was, as we now know, *WRONG*. Using *that* rumor to buttress a claim that a short update cycle is *likely* is akin to using George Washington's reading of the Gettysburg Address to buttress the argument.

(And, yes, I'm fully aware that Abe Lincoln gave that speech. That's kind of my point. A non-existent event can't be used as support for that event happening again.)

 

[WildCowboy]

And the single most concrete example used in that half of the article referred to a rumor that the iPad '3' would be released with a significantly shorter gap than we'd seen between the first two models. And that rumor was, as we now know, *WRONG*. Using *that* rumor to buttress a claim that a short update cycle is *likely* is akin to using George Washington's reading of the Gettysburg Address to buttress the argument.

(And, yes, I'm fully aware that Abe Lincoln gave that speech. That's kind of my point. A non-existent event can't be used as support for that event happening again.)

That statement is designed to buttress this claim. It merely points out that there have been other rumors in the last year.

The rumor needs no buttressing from iMore. They have source who by all accounts appears to be providing accurate information (new dock connector, Apple media event dates) and they are now saying that a new iPad is coming in the fall. That's all they're claiming.

We'll certainly be keeping our eyes for other evidence of it, and there have been hints floating around in the form of reports from iLounge and Ming-Chi Kuo.

Obviously the similar rumor from last year didn't come true, but whether it was completely wrong or if Apple was indeed considering an "early" launch and simply decided it wouldn't/couldn't do it remains up for debate.

This time around we're getting word from sources that do seem to have decent track records, so we'll see what happens.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

That statement is designed to buttress this claim. It merely points out that there have been other rumors in the last year.

Give it a rest. There's no reasoning with this guy. He reminds me of all the people who insist that there is NO WAY apple would release the 16:9 4" iPhone and that is a hoax to throw us off the scent of the real iPhone

 

[tbrinkma]

Give it a rest. There's no reasoning with this guy. He reminds me of all the people who insist that there is NO WAY apple would release the 16:9 4" iPhone and that is a hoax to throw us off the scent of the real iPhone

Wow. You'll notice that through this entire conversation I haven't resorted to insulting anyone, or even claiming that Apple *won't* do an early update. I've simply been pointing out that the text of the article doesn't actually say that they *will*.

The idea that the entire iOS device line will be updated by this fall stems entirely from a misreading of the phrase "as soon as" to mean "no later than". If by, "there's no reasoning with this guy", you mean you won't be able to convince me that "as soon as" (which provides a earliest time threshold) means the same as "no later than" (which provides a latest time threshold), then I guess you're right. But only because those two phrases *don't* mean the same thing.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

Wow. You'll notice that through this entire conversation I haven't resorted to insulting anyone, or even claiming that Apple *won't* do an early update. I've simply been pointing out that the text of the article doesn't actually say that they *will*.

The idea that the entire iOS device line will be updated by this fall stems entirely from a misreading of the phrase "as soon as" to mean "no later than". If by, "there's no reasoning with this guy", you mean you won't be able to convince me that "as soon as" (which provides a earliest time threshold) means the same as "no later than" (which provides a latest time threshold), then I guess you're right. But only because those two phrases *don't* mean the same thing.

but the article does explicitly say that the iPad is rumored to be updated this fall... I'm not even concerned with the as soon as sept 12 statement. Everything about this article screams "I think it will be this fall!" This statement sums it up succinctly.

Whether a new, new iPad this fall would be an iPad 4,1 or simply a new iPad 3,x is unclear.

Sure they admit they could be wrong, but the intent of the article is that they believe the iPad WILL be updated sometime this fall.