Apple's software engineers underpaid?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by Blue Velvet, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/06/11/glassdoor/index.html
     
  2. gauchogolfer macrumors 603

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    Well to be fair, you've got to factor in the cost-of-living difference between Mountain View and Cupertino.



    Oh, wait...nvm.
     
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    "... meager financial returns."

    I suppose we are talking in relative terms, but even so.

    I also have to wonder if they've factored in benefits, access to stock options, bonuses, and the like.
     
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    10 responses is inadequate to calculate any kind of average (don't know how many Apple respondents there were.) One value out of range (high or low) skews the average.

    For example, in one neighborhood in Washington State, the average yearly income is $2,400,000 per family. Good neighborhood to be in, right? Except that's 100 families scraping by at $80,000 a year plus one house owned by W. Gates who reports $234,000,000 per year. Is that $2.4 mil a representative average?*

    (See Stephen Jay Gould's Full House for a discussion on statistics and the improper use thereof)


    (* yes, I made those figures up. Bill Gates probably brings home much more than that)
     
  6. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    Click the link ;)

    The graph shows that they include bonuses.

    I'm currently in the search for a job and the places I am considering the most aren't the highest paid by any stretch but they are for the company with the best reputation in CSR, the best responses from the employees I have spoken to etc. I'd rather work happy than in a job I would hate.
     
  7. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    who cares?

    i mean in the sense they agreed to the salary when they accepted the job. If apple isn't competitive with salaries, it will reflect in the decline of people accepting posisitions. Economics will play itself out

    If it was so bad, apple engineers can always apply for google lol

    also, salary isnt the only form of compensation. i wonder what the retirement/vaca/benefits comparisons are

    im sure there are some who took lesser salaries because they wanted to work for apple
     
  8. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Your eyes are better than mine. Could they have made that print any tinier?

    I'm still trying to wrap my mind around "meager financial returns."
     
  9. gauchogolfer macrumors 603

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    Have you looked at housing in the South Bay recently? I'd say it's 'meager' in comparison. It all depends on where you're standing, I suppose. I'm an engineer and the range seems pretty similar to my industry (and SB isn't any cheaper, sadly).
     
  10. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Let's put it this way: Lots of people live in these expensive regions of California on far less than $100k a year. That kind of salary isn't "meager" in my estimation.
     

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