I have to disagree with you there. If you're a serious investor, you have to decide if a stock is over or under-priced or else you should never buy or sell. You'll most definitely be proved right or wrong in the future but it certainly isn't silly to make those sort of determinations. What is silly is to state any stock is over or under-priced without any basis for doing so except for looking at the current stock price and market cap.
So concepts like value investing are just a myth? Who knew? Thanks for setting me straight.
This doesn't make sense to me. Apple had a very disappointing quarter last quarter, they gave guidance towards an even worse quarter next quarter, and yet their stock is skyrocketing to all-time highs? I don't get it.
You're not supposed to get it.We're talking about the stock market. It's a highly irrational gambling sport. Take one look at Amazon's 295 P/E or LinkedIn Corporation's 890 P/E and you'll walk away shaking your head. Wall Street believes that LinkedIn will earn that much money in the future and Apple won't with a 14.5 P/E. I'd swear it's absolutely impossible for LinkedIn to be worth that much. Go figure.
The only investors that have a handle on things are the hedge fund managers. They don't sit back and watch. They make things happen. Apple may be considered overvalued and will probably never reach $750, but I bought most of my shares when the stock was around $80 in 2004, so I've basically made more than I ever thought I would and I have no regrets. Now I can at least just sit back and receive an unexpected dividend every quarter which to me is wonderful.![]()
The stock hit a new high of $644.13 per share just minutes ago, besting the previous all-time high of $644.00 set on April 10.
What you are really talking about here is the difference between investors and traders. As individuals, investors have a chance, but as traders they are begging to be road kill. You bought into AAPL in a period when the PE was very high, not stratospheric by the standards of AMZN or some others today, but with the big valuation warning light flashing. That did not stop you and I'm not saying it should have, only that whacked out PEs don't necessarily mean that a stock is overvalued. It should be taken as a sign that investors are expecting earnings growth rates to accelerate. You have to decide if that's right or wrong.
You realize I hope that the difference between the current price for AAPL and $750 is only 15%. The question should be whether Apple can increase earnings by at least that much in, say, the next 12-18 months. If the answer is yes, then the answer to the question of whether it can reach $750 in that timeframe is obvious. I'm not predicting anything, only pointing out that these are the numbers that need to be considered.
The only investors that have a handle on things are the hedge fund managers. They don't sit back and watch. They make things happen. Apple may be considered overvalued and will probably never reach $750, but I bought most of my shares when the stock was around $80 in 2004, so I've basically made more than I ever thought I would and I have no regrets. Now I can at least just sit back and receive an unexpected dividend every quarter which to me is wonderful.![]()
This doesn't make sense to me. Apple had a very disappointing quarter last quarter, they gave guidance towards an even worse quarter next quarter, and yet their stock is skyrocketing to all-time highs? I don't get it.
13 cent rise in stock price since last quarter. wow that is quite a "surge".
They will likely sell 50 million smart phones in the September quarter, so it should be all good. If they do that, $750 will be a distant memory in short order. The run-up now is the buy before the release. The stock should break 750 after next quarters earnings come out. Expect January or February.
Anybody know when the best time to buy stock in? I've just started a new career and would like to learn more about investing.
Like, do you really think that nothing is going to happen on the 12th?
Read up on the efficient market hypothesis. Then investment cost average by buying small portions of stock at random times. Roll dice to figure out what days. Really! Evidence is that a random number generator "knows" the better times to by stock more often than most amateur investors, maybe most pros as well.
Value investing works for Buffet and a few others. Most other amateur investors pick the wrong set of "values" to do any better than random dart throwers.
I do, or at least did.In other news, does anyone want facebook stocks?
They are actually undervalued.
Animal spirits just thrive the stock price higher and higher, until one quarter Apple won't meet its targets and won't come up with a new killer product and then you're in trouble.
It was always going to shoot up this week - after all, I sold a large chunk of my shares last week. So you can thank me.
No regrets though as I sold my shares to pay for my honeymoon and I still have the same value of shares left as I did when I bought them just under a year ago. Thanks Apple!![]()