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Apple's Studio Display vs. Dell's Latest $655 27-Inch UltraSharp Monitor
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WWDC.
Please have more options.
I know, I know, but still......
Please have more options.
I know, I know, but still......
AFAIK the Dell monitor is certified DisplayHDR-400, which is in fact quite a low HDR standard, but a HDR standard still.
Said that, I think Apple's display could also obtain DisplayHDR-400 certification if Apple wanted to. I guess Apple doesn't consider such certification significant enough to bother.
Have two studio displays on my desk. Audio running stereo through either side. Needs a sub but sound great a low to med vol. more importantly they look great. Color reproduction is perfect, and theyre sharp. Webcam is a let down. I note that chrome doesn’t allow the cinema part to move around which is better, I just get a wider view. Be nice for apple to give us the option.
I moved from a higher end dell 4K admittedly older monitor. Worth it.
I moved from a higher end dell 4K admittedly older monitor. Worth it.
While this is all technically true, its also missing the point. Every monitor achieves "retina" simply by being far enough away average human eyesight can't perceive individual pixels.
We use Retina to indicate the monitor achieves a high level of sharpness at normal distances.
I can't believe you don't want an integrated sub-woofer.
I wish someone would design a nice case and stand that we could put all those 5K iMac panels from non-functioning iMacs into.
What about build quality? And a camera? And speakers? And not having that crappy Dell logo?
Yes 30” at 5K would most definitely be “Retina” at typical distances, with “typical” meaning 20” or more. (Some ergonomics guidelines recommend 20” or more.) The cutoff is 18” for those specs. It wouldn’t be Retina for the ultra close distance of 16” that a 27” 5K monitor supports but that isn’t actually typical for a desktop.
I usually sit at around 25” from my desktops, BTW.
PS. It should be noted that Apple’s flagship non-Retina display of the past was 30” 2.5K, so a 30” 5K would represent an exact 2X/4X scale up from that.
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Me too -- that was one of the reasons I didn't go down the "5k panel + driver board from AliExpress" route
I even implored Planar to sell me a bare case from their IX2790's -- was just going to pop in my own panel that didn't have defects (all the IX2790's were using reject 5k panels with ghosting, zillions of stuck/dead pixels, etc)
Just because the basic display panel tech is six years old doesn’t mean that much. It’s what you do with it. For example, camera sensors have largely been the same for nearly a decade.
Perhaps the price for 5K panels stays high because it’s actually hard to make in quantity + quality? Otherwise wouldn’t we be seeing comparisons with crap 5K monitors?
Because the display is wrapped in cheap plastic and has a dated design.
Very true.
I also happen to believe (but have no evidence) that 4K gaming is driving much of the display purchases in the PC world and PC gaming is doing great at 4K so why the 5K when it would just make your Nvidia do fewer frames per second.
Totally agree with you, but it's not as obvious to put a figure on it, thus I let you decide for your selves about that. I am just surprised when 5K monitors are compared with 4K and everyone talking about how much cheaper.
And it wobbles like a drunk person out at 2am on a Saturday night.
5K is the right ppi for 27". 6K is overkill at 27" and is better at the 30-32" range. Once you get to "retina" at a given viewing distance, the extra pixels don't help.
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The price is high because it's a niche.
Gamers drive a ton of demand and they have no use for anything above 4k
(in fact, for gamers, 5k is a detriment as it's really hard to drive all those pixels at good FPS -- and it's mostly pointless in terms of visuals for gaming)
Also, Windows seems to look much better on scaled resolutions on 4k panels (in my experience -- I dual boot both OS on my current machine and 4k panel) and thus even non gaming Windows users are served just fine by 4k as a max.
tldr - 5k is super niche
How would I go about comparing this Dell monitor to my current iMac 27" mid 2010 monitor? Is it comparable, or is it worse?
Place it farther away, and it will be.
I bought this display last week and I'm seriously impressed.
- Image quality is great and IPS Black really does make a difference.
- Connects seamlessly via USB-C
- Text is crystal clear, can't see much of a difference vs my built-in Retina display on the MBA. You obviously sit further away on a desk so the 163 PPI is plenty enough I find.
At 900 EUR this was less than half of the Apple Studio Display (1990 EUR locally). The adjustability really is a nice bonus and I also plan to connect my Xbox Series X for some casual gaming which I wouldn't have been able to do on the ASD.
- Image quality is great and IPS Black really does make a difference.
- Connects seamlessly via USB-C
- Text is crystal clear, can't see much of a difference vs my built-in Retina display on the MBA. You obviously sit further away on a desk so the 163 PPI is plenty enough I find.
At 900 EUR this was less than half of the Apple Studio Display (1990 EUR locally). The adjustability really is a nice bonus and I also plan to connect my Xbox Series X for some casual gaming which I wouldn't have been able to do on the ASD.