That’s literally what the certification is…
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Apple's Studio Display XDR Supports DICOM Medical Imaging for Diagnostic Radiology
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Wish it came in a larger size like the Barco ones we have. Great having 1 large screen versus 2 small ones for comparisons.
DocMultimedia
macrumors 68030
The better the full imaging process goes the better. Says a guy who gets a yearly MRI to keep an eye on a tumor. I'm amazed by the improvements since the 90s.
jakey rolling
macrumors 65816
Isn't that what the FDA's medical display approval process is supposed to do?
AshX
macrumors regular
Yeah, it is freakin' expensive. Would I buy one? -Maybe- in a 32" at the same price. I'm an old f'ing boomer - lemme tell ya what high prices really were, sonny! 17" Nanao CRT monitor with gen-u-wine Trinitron tube. $800. Then later, a 20" version for well over a grand. Big, heavy, hot AF so I didn't need heat in the office.
Of course it is, just like the Pro Display XDR. Apple didn't even pretend it was for average consumers.
klasma
macrumors G4
DICOM prescribes a specific 10-bit grayscale function that DICOM monitors must be able to accurately reproduce. It probably mostly comes down to a special factory-verified calibration preset, and/or supporting calibration hardware to keep the display properly calibrated.
Ironically a lot of radiology is starting to be automated with something Apple is having some issues with…AI.
Agent007
macrumors 6502
Gotta have an FDA-certified monitor to practice medicine in the US.
So much over-regulation where it shouldn't exist and hardly any where it should. A lobbyist-infested hellscape.
Drive drunk? You're a risk to other drivers! No license for a year! ...unless you pay $500/month to have this brand ignition interlock installed by an approved shop on this list and pay this $1,500 "driver assessment fee" and double your insurance premium, then you're totally not a risk to other drivers.🤦♂️
That display is not suitable for primary diagnosis. Assuming the XDR is approved, it can be used for primary diagnosis. That’s a huge difference.
Uhhh the new Studio Display XDR will only work on a Mac with M1 chip.
How many imaging centers use a Mac of any kind? (Intel, M).
How many imaging centers use a Mac of any kind? (Intel, M).
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Zdigital2015
macrumors 601
I’m sure the insurance company that is providing malpractice insurance will take that into account when the doctor makes an incorrect cancer diagnosis using a $199 1080p HP POS display in his home office.
EugW
macrumors P6
Obviously you haven't been reading the thread. Macs are extremely common in physicians' homes, and are not uncommon in physicians' offices.
Zdigital2015
macrumors 601
Remember the old Radius and SuperMac displays and their associated NuBus GPU cards? CHA-CHING!
Although, I think RasterOps made the most expensive monitors at the time IIRC.
abowlby
macrumors 6502a
You can buy a DICOM compliant display for $800. This is the classic Apple marketing canard of "look at how useful this is in big important work like Doctor monitors."
Yeah, no. Central purchasing can invoice 4-6 of these for the price of one Studio Display + stand.
Yeah, no. Central purchasing can invoice 4-6 of these for the price of one Studio Display + stand.
xraydoc
Contributor
An FDA approved monitor for $800? No. The displays I use at work are $12,000 a piece.
For $3500, being able to have a medical grade display at home? This might get me to upgrade mine.
Most docs would rather have this on their desk, at home they can afford it, at work it's a rounding error in total cost of employment.
xraydoc
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No. That is not remotely the same thing.
abowlby
macrumors 6502a
This has obtained FDA clearance. It is $800 new, $600 refurbished.
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Also, what calibration tools does the XDR have? I'm not talking about schlepping around with software based tools, I mean external hardware based calibration?
Should also add the XDR's FDA approval is pending, which means they are just waiting for the check to clear. 🤣
The DICOM compliance is the more important metric here.
if you're paying someone $500,000/yr (a typical salary for a radiologist) do you really think the budget cant absorb the cost of a $3k monitor every few years for them to use?
xraydoc
Contributor
That’s a 2MP display (1200x1600). Insufficient for CR.
Not all primary diagnostic displays have built-in calibration hardware.
You can, I can. But a radiologist can't use it for a medical diagnosis. They do need special monitors. This is now apparently one of them.
abowlby
macrumors 6502a
Then why not get a good, purpose built monitor north of $10K instead of this marketing forward piece? Because of cognitive dissonance, thats why. Apple also talked about what a great value the PD XDR was for color grading, but as it turns out the blue shift was very pronounced when viewing from an angle. Also, bloom is a thing with mini-LED.
Barco, Eizo? Nope. The heritage means nothing. Then again AI will be taking that $500K portion within 5 years anyway. So who cares.
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xraydoc
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Believe me, AI isn’t taking my job within the next 5 years. It’ll make me more productive, definitely. But won’t replace me any time soon. By the time it can, it’ll replace everyone else as well.